Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.

'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Steph L. - Nov 04, 2015 4:02:59 pm PST #28654 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Okay, I'm counting Constantine telling Ollie to lift up his shirt and then putting his hand on his naked torso as hitting on him. Because, dang it, that's as close to canonically bisexual John Constantine as the networks are going to give us. #headcanon


Tom Scola - Nov 04, 2015 4:59:49 pm PST #28655 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Before the episode aired, I was kind of scratching my head wondering just how Constantine would end up owing Ollie a favor. I mean, there are LOTS of people that Constantine owes favors to, but I wasn't sure how Ollie would fit in. I'm glad they showed it, even if it was more than a little contrived.


quester - Nov 04, 2015 5:49:18 pm PST #28656 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Contrived? on Arrow?

Have you watched this show?


Hil R. - Nov 04, 2015 5:55:14 pm PST #28657 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I wonder what the characters in the tattoo mean. I saw something a while ago written by someone who (supposedly) knew how to read the Chinese characters, and she said that the first two were animals, corresponding to the first two years that Oliver was on the island, and the second two weren't quite anything, but she could sort of come up with a way to make them mean Shado and Yao Fei.


billytea - Nov 04, 2015 6:12:40 pm PST #28658 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I wonder what the characters in the tattoo mean. I saw something a while ago written by someone who (supposedly) knew how to read the Chinese characters, and she said that the first two were animals, corresponding to the first two years that Oliver was on the island, and the second two weren't quite anything, but she could sort of come up with a way to make them mean Shado and Yao Fei.

Is there a picture online of the tattoo? I could ask Biyi.


Hil R. - Nov 04, 2015 6:22:55 pm PST #28659 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

This is the clearest image I found from a quick Google, but it's still kind of fuzzy. [link]


DXMachina - Nov 04, 2015 6:33:16 pm PST #28660 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Oh, COME ON. John Constantine just happened to be on Lian Yu?

It's a magical place.


billytea - Nov 04, 2015 10:36:49 pm PST #28661 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I asked Biyi. That picture has been reversed, so the characters are all mirror images. They're traditional characters rather than simplified. (I think that may make a difference only in the last character.) She believes they are:

鼠 姜 姚 猪

In pinyin: shŭ jiāng yáo zhū, which means "Rat Ginger Elegant Pig". The third character, though, is more commonly encountered as a surname.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2015 4:40:27 am PST #28662 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

"Rat Ginger Elegant Pig"

Man, this is awesome.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 05, 2015 4:59:52 am PST #28663 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So the first two characters refer to Oliver's hair during his first two years on the island?