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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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hippocampus - Feb 16, 2008 5:25:50 pm PST #275 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

seriously! I think they are trying to induce psychosis!

psychosis where we all turn into zombies and go out to see the movie... instead of ... er. actual psychosis.

Yeah. Too much art imitating life in my actual life. Causing pain. No love.

Yeah - the ending was turbulent, but there were some parts that really kicked ass. I was explaining to DH about how this was such a great show- and how there were competing relationships that made things complicated, when the catfight/who can be more worthy battle broke out in the conference room. And I almost yelled Jack! FTW! But really. Because then I'll have to explain cheering for Jack. And here I go... off to do just that.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2008 5:34:20 pm PST #276 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I get the euthanising--it's not a far leap to see the poor thing as past it, plus hella hard to move and house--I know they try and portray a sense of huge storage volume at the hub, but I'm not buying it, and the cells are uniformly small.


Dana - Feb 16, 2008 5:36:48 pm PST #277 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yeah, it was the size of a blimp. I can't imagine they could get it into the hub.

One of my favorite things about this episode was Gwen and Rhys' fights. They're painful and vicious, the kind of fights people have when they've had years to learn where their partner's sore spots are.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2008 5:40:43 pm PST #278 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can we take a moment for the bad assedness that is Ianto? My original copy had bad audio in that one scene towards the end where he takes the baddies out, so I'm eagerly waiting for the reshowing here in the Pacific timezone so I can hear it right and proper.


hippocampus - Feb 16, 2008 5:42:46 pm PST #279 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

I'll take you that moment and see you some good dialog too.

and some very nice pizza ordering.


Dana - Feb 16, 2008 5:48:43 pm PST #280 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Can we take a moment for the bad assedness that is Ianto?

t takes a moment

t takes another


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2008 7:41:02 pm PST #281 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

My original copy had bad audio in that one scene towards the end where he takes the baddies out

I'm not sure if it was your copy or not. I couldn't understand what Ianto said at the end of that scene. It sounded like "Pray you survive" but I wouldn't swear on it.

I found the fate of the alien horrifically sad. And agree that even if they'd sedated it, I don't think they could have gotten it anywhere they could have helped it.

Loved Rhys in this episode. Do not understand where Jack's crush on Gwen came from unless it's because she seems to be the only peson not crushing on him. That, or it's fallout from Gwen refusing to give up on Jack coming back to life the last episode of season 1. But whatever it is, I shouldn't have to work this hard to make it sensical.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2008 9:46:08 pm PST #282 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think they did enough in S1 (though they could have, in the final ep) to support the S2 Jack/Gwen whatever.

I think it was "Pray they survive."


sumi - Feb 17, 2008 4:22:27 am PST #283 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I love Ianto as Mr. Steed. I had no idea.

Also - I think that they are over-pushing the Gwen/Jack and agree that it kind of came out of nowhere. (Plus, Gwen/Jack hurts Ianto and Rhys - NOT GOOD.)

The leviathan made me cry. Poor thing.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 17, 2008 4:59:04 am PST #284 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The leviathan made me cry. Poor thing.

They did way too good a job with it's vocalizations.