Let him do his thing, and then you get him out. No messing with him for laughs.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sj - Mar 18, 2015 12:25:39 pm PDT #27112 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm not familiar with the showrunner's work, but I'm disappointed that it is an 18 episode season. I think with this show shorter runs are better.


Vonnie K - Mar 18, 2015 1:19:02 pm PDT #27113 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Apparently a lot of people hate Cisco, but I like him.

I don't get this at all. Cisco is an adorable goof, funny and smart and loyal, and super-identifiable for most of its audience as a fellow geek. You would think the fanboys over at AV Club would see themselves in Cisco (they WISH they were as cute) but they really love to bag on him for some reason. Not me. Of the entire Flash gang, he's probably my favourite.

I love Cavanaugh's portrayal of Wells/Thawn SO MUCH. I cannot remember an on-screen villain I loved more in recent memory. Whatever long game they're telling with him, they have me wrapped around their little finger. Even his motivation is great. He's not psychotic or bent on world domination or mad with grief because of a dead wife/girlfriend or whatever (at this point, I assume that story about Tess was total fake or he killed her himself) -- he just fucking wants to go home, and he will do whatever he needs to do to get there.

"Forgive me, but to me, you have been dead for centuries." GOOSEBUMPS, I tell you.


Steph L. - Mar 18, 2015 2:05:24 pm PDT #27114 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I love Cavanaugh's portrayal of Wells/Thawn SO MUCH. I cannot remember an on-screen villain I loved more in recent memory.

Hell yes.


quester - Mar 18, 2015 3:54:02 pm PDT #27115 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I couldn't figure out how far back Barry went. He seemed to recognize where and when he was, but I missed the significance.

So glad Cisco lives. That scene broke my heart. Love the guy and cannot fathom how anyone could not like him.

Wells is stone cold.


msbelle - Mar 18, 2015 3:54:54 pm PDT #27116 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I have larger question for the universe. How does this affect the world outside Central City?


Susan W. - Mar 18, 2015 3:55:03 pm PDT #27117 of 30001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

What are our thoughts on the new showrunner? As I have none myself but I want some.

So far the Tumblr people I follow seem cautiously optimistic--like, it seems like the new guy has at least some experience with both genre shows and diverse casts, and it seems like TPTB listened when the fandom nigh mutinied mid-season.


quester - Mar 18, 2015 3:59:48 pm PDT #27118 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Arrow is wack!


DXMachina - Mar 18, 2015 4:22:50 pm PDT #27119 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I couldn't figure out how far back Barry went. He seemed to recognize where and when he was, but I missed the significance.

He went back to just before he reached the coroner's lab. He'd just left the bowling alley. He saw himself the first time he did it, and mentioned it to Wells.

How does this affect the world outside Central City?

Same as inside Central City. The question is how the writers handle it. It looks as though time-traveling!Barry has replaced original!Barry in the time line, which implies the whole time line has reset to that point, which means everything, not just Barry. If not, then there would be a second Barry running around.

Time-travel gets complicated, but as long as he doesn't step on any bugs, things should work out.

And if the writers don't decide to reset the universe every season like on Eureka.


Jon B. - Mar 18, 2015 5:17:38 pm PDT #27120 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Flash: What I didn't get is what Cisco saw/heard from replaying Reverse-Flash-in-the-cell that made him figure out it was Wells. What did he learn?


Vortex - Mar 18, 2015 5:41:04 pm PDT #27121 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that he figured out that the "trapped speedster" was actually an illusion, and the only person who could have created that was Wells.