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I couldn't figure out how far back Barry went. He seemed to recognize where and when he was, but I missed the significance.
So glad Cisco lives. That scene broke my heart. Love the guy and cannot fathom how anyone could not like him.
Wells is stone cold.
I have larger question for the universe. How does this affect the world outside Central City?
What are our thoughts on the new showrunner? As I have none myself but I want some.
So far the Tumblr people I follow seem cautiously optimistic--like, it seems like the new guy has at least some experience with both genre shows and diverse casts, and it seems like TPTB listened when the fandom nigh mutinied mid-season.
Arrow is wack!
I couldn't figure out how far back Barry went. He seemed to recognize where and when he was, but I missed the significance.
He went back to just before he reached the coroner's lab. He'd just left the bowling alley. He saw himself the first time he did it, and mentioned it to Wells.
How does this affect the world outside Central City?
Same as inside Central City. The question is how the writers handle it. It looks as though time-traveling!Barry has replaced original!Barry in the time line, which implies the whole time line has reset to that point, which means everything, not just Barry. If not, then there would be a second Barry running around.
Time-travel gets complicated, but as long as he doesn't step on any bugs, things should work out.
And if the writers don't decide to reset the universe every season like on Eureka.
Flash: What I didn't get is what Cisco saw/heard from replaying Reverse-Flash-in-the-cell that made him figure out it was Wells. What did he learn?
I think that he figured out that the "trapped speedster" was actually an illusion, and the only person who could have created that was Wells.
I'd like to know where the hell Barry, Cisco, and Caitlin think they got the moral authority to imprison people indefinitely (obviously Wells is a supervillain so he's worried about expediency, not ethics). Holding them on scene until the cops make an arrest would be fine, as would loaning their facilities to the police or feds for detainment of metahumans who might escape ordinary jails. But I'm really disappointed that Hartley didn't throw civil rights in Cisco's face, when the latter was acting like a prison warden.
I'd like to know where the hell Barry, Cisco, and Caitlin think they got the moral authority to imprison people indefinitely
And obviously Joe Wells has to know about the pipeline, because he knows the metahuman criminals aren't ending up in Central City lockup. They're all a little too cavalier about Little Guantanamo.
I'm kind of surprised that Argus hasn't stepped in to take them. Or maybe that was the argument Wells used on the junior partners, that the prisoners were better off being held at Star Labs than than handing them over to Argus (or Eiling).