Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DXMachina - Mar 18, 2015 4:22:50 pm PDT #27119 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I couldn't figure out how far back Barry went. He seemed to recognize where and when he was, but I missed the significance.

He went back to just before he reached the coroner's lab. He'd just left the bowling alley. He saw himself the first time he did it, and mentioned it to Wells.

How does this affect the world outside Central City?

Same as inside Central City. The question is how the writers handle it. It looks as though time-traveling!Barry has replaced original!Barry in the time line, which implies the whole time line has reset to that point, which means everything, not just Barry. If not, then there would be a second Barry running around.

Time-travel gets complicated, but as long as he doesn't step on any bugs, things should work out.

And if the writers don't decide to reset the universe every season like on Eureka.


Jon B. - Mar 18, 2015 5:17:38 pm PDT #27120 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Flash: What I didn't get is what Cisco saw/heard from replaying Reverse-Flash-in-the-cell that made him figure out it was Wells. What did he learn?


Vortex - Mar 18, 2015 5:41:04 pm PDT #27121 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that he figured out that the "trapped speedster" was actually an illusion, and the only person who could have created that was Wells.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 19, 2015 5:58:46 am PDT #27122 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd like to know where the hell Barry, Cisco, and Caitlin think they got the moral authority to imprison people indefinitely (obviously Wells is a supervillain so he's worried about expediency, not ethics). Holding them on scene until the cops make an arrest would be fine, as would loaning their facilities to the police or feds for detainment of metahumans who might escape ordinary jails. But I'm really disappointed that Hartley didn't throw civil rights in Cisco's face, when the latter was acting like a prison warden.


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2015 6:05:29 am PDT #27123 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I'd like to know where the hell Barry, Cisco, and Caitlin think they got the moral authority to imprison people indefinitely

And obviously Joe Wells has to know about the pipeline, because he knows the metahuman criminals aren't ending up in Central City lockup. They're all a little too cavalier about Little Guantanamo.


DXMachina - Mar 19, 2015 10:02:00 am PDT #27124 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I'm kind of surprised that Argus hasn't stepped in to take them. Or maybe that was the argument Wells used on the junior partners, that the prisoners were better off being held at Star Labs than than handing them over to Argus (or Eiling).


Vonnie K - Mar 19, 2015 3:33:51 pm PDT #27125 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

A short interview with Tom Cavanaugh about keeping his character's identity secret all this time: [link]

IMDb says he's 51. Dude is aging VERY well.

I have to handwave the prison in Pipeline in order to enjoy the show, because not only is it totally ethically abhorrent, it makes no goddamn sense on practical standpoint as well.


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2015 3:49:52 pm PDT #27126 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

We just watched iZombie, and that was SO. MUCH. FUN!!! It's definitely replacing SHIELD for watching as it airs.


msbelle - Mar 19, 2015 4:10:54 pm PDT #27127 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Tom Cavanaugh

He's lovely.


Polter-Cow - Mar 19, 2015 6:50:27 pm PDT #27128 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

We just watched iZombie, and that was SO. MUCH. FUN!!! It's definitely replacing SHIELD for watching as it airs.

If I can manage it, I want to try to keep the same thing going where I watch SHIELD and then follow it with a fun iZombie chaser.