It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.

Mal ,'Jaynestown'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Toddson - Oct 14, 2014 7:10:45 am PDT #26046 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

That accent ...

and that snark delivered, with 18th-century-style flourishes in that accent!


Connie Neil - Oct 14, 2014 7:32:53 am PDT #26047 of 30001
brillig

When Abby realized he was trolling her by learning how to drive already--I don't want to imagine Jenny's driving lessons that focuses on bootleg turns.


beekaytee - Oct 14, 2014 8:17:45 am PDT #26048 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Exactly. Jenny was messin' with Abby on that score.

I have one quibble. I've had to stop and start the episode and have just gotten to the rescue scene.

Okay, so 10 year old girl has been kidnapped and traumatized. Ichabod carries her away and pauses for a long conversation about ethics and artifacts.

At no point does the child utter a peep.

Unless the piper cast a silencing spell...I'm not buying it. A single line from Crane about the need for calm would have fixed it for me.


JenP - Oct 14, 2014 8:29:53 am PDT #26049 of 30001

Whathisname Holly has a McConaughey-like charm. I like him.

Interesting points Henry made in his conversation with Irving at the end of the ep. I don't like that they seem to have tricked him into signing over his soul (if they actually have). Though, to be fair, he didn't take the time to read before signing. Still. That kind of deal seems like it ought to require assent with knowledge, based on my preference and how I think that kind of lore goes.

The Pied Piper was good and creepy -- loved the effects especially in the fight with Ichabod a the end. His noise-cancelling earbud schtick, when he first tried them on, was funny, too.


Connie Neil - Oct 14, 2014 8:38:15 am PDT #26050 of 30001
brillig

He signed in blood. I think arguing consent would be like one of those lawsuits that cost more than a favorable ruling would be worth.

Though Henry did seem willing to tear the contract up--with consequences.

My quibble with the rescue was--since when do iPhones come with explosives timers set in? Unless Holly and Crane had time to coordinate bombs.


beekaytee - Oct 14, 2014 9:17:48 am PDT #26051 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I thought the iphone bombs came out of the big bag of boomboom. If not, you are totally right. How could that even happen?

I was intrigued by aspects of the Henry/Irving conversation where Henry pointed out how much Irving may have lala'ed past some of the finer details.


Theodosia - Oct 14, 2014 9:59:03 am PDT #26052 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I noted from the closed captioning that Holly's name actually seems to be Hawley.

And yeah, still objectionating here to deals signed under false premises. Somebody presents themself to you as a lawyer, you are supposed to be able to implicitly trust their advice.

(I'd love for a Lawful Evil Satan to show up and declare the contract null and void -- just so that he could fuck with Moloch. Especially if he were played by Viggo Mortenson. Ah well.)


Steph L. - Oct 14, 2014 10:05:00 am PDT #26053 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And yeah, still objectionating here to deals signed under false premises.

That bugs me, too. OTOH, it's not like Evil Incorporated plays by the rules.

I noted from the closed captioning that Holly's name actually seems to be Hawley.

I'm slightly disappointed he's not played by Josh Holloway, since the character reminds me so damn much of Sawyer from Lost.


JenP - Oct 14, 2014 10:55:17 am PDT #26054 of 30001

(I'd love for a Lawful Evil Satan to show up and declare the contract null and void -- just so that he could fuck with Moloch. Especially if he were played by Viggo Mortenson. Ah well.)

Love it. Party foul on Moloch.

Hawley. Why do I like that better? Weird.


quester - Oct 14, 2014 3:23:47 pm PDT #26055 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

still say the actor playing Hawley looks and sounds like Gary Busey when he was young.