Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


JenP - Oct 14, 2014 8:29:53 am PDT #26049 of 30001

Whathisname Holly has a McConaughey-like charm. I like him.

Interesting points Henry made in his conversation with Irving at the end of the ep. I don't like that they seem to have tricked him into signing over his soul (if they actually have). Though, to be fair, he didn't take the time to read before signing. Still. That kind of deal seems like it ought to require assent with knowledge, based on my preference and how I think that kind of lore goes.

The Pied Piper was good and creepy -- loved the effects especially in the fight with Ichabod a the end. His noise-cancelling earbud schtick, when he first tried them on, was funny, too.


Connie Neil - Oct 14, 2014 8:38:15 am PDT #26050 of 30001
brillig

He signed in blood. I think arguing consent would be like one of those lawsuits that cost more than a favorable ruling would be worth.

Though Henry did seem willing to tear the contract up--with consequences.

My quibble with the rescue was--since when do iPhones come with explosives timers set in? Unless Holly and Crane had time to coordinate bombs.


beekaytee - Oct 14, 2014 9:17:48 am PDT #26051 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I thought the iphone bombs came out of the big bag of boomboom. If not, you are totally right. How could that even happen?

I was intrigued by aspects of the Henry/Irving conversation where Henry pointed out how much Irving may have lala'ed past some of the finer details.


Theodosia - Oct 14, 2014 9:59:03 am PDT #26052 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I noted from the closed captioning that Holly's name actually seems to be Hawley.

And yeah, still objectionating here to deals signed under false premises. Somebody presents themself to you as a lawyer, you are supposed to be able to implicitly trust their advice.

(I'd love for a Lawful Evil Satan to show up and declare the contract null and void -- just so that he could fuck with Moloch. Especially if he were played by Viggo Mortenson. Ah well.)


Steph L. - Oct 14, 2014 10:05:00 am PDT #26053 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And yeah, still objectionating here to deals signed under false premises.

That bugs me, too. OTOH, it's not like Evil Incorporated plays by the rules.

I noted from the closed captioning that Holly's name actually seems to be Hawley.

I'm slightly disappointed he's not played by Josh Holloway, since the character reminds me so damn much of Sawyer from Lost.


JenP - Oct 14, 2014 10:55:17 am PDT #26054 of 30001

(I'd love for a Lawful Evil Satan to show up and declare the contract null and void -- just so that he could fuck with Moloch. Especially if he were played by Viggo Mortenson. Ah well.)

Love it. Party foul on Moloch.

Hawley. Why do I like that better? Weird.


quester - Oct 14, 2014 3:23:47 pm PDT #26055 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

still say the actor playing Hawley looks and sounds like Gary Busey when he was young.


Vonnie K - Oct 14, 2014 4:33:38 pm PDT #26056 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

The Flash: The dialog continues to be cornball ("we were all struck by lightning?" Oh, honey), but I really liked all the scene Gustin had with Jesse L. Martin. Joe's face when Barry yelled "you are not my father!" Awww.

Wells keeps unfolding like a deadly flower. I dig it. Cisco is adorable and Caitlin is growing on me.


Vortex - Oct 14, 2014 4:41:16 pm PDT #26057 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He signed in blood. I think arguing consent would be like one of those lawsuits that cost more than a favorable ruling would be worth.

The thing that bugs me is not that Evil isn't playing fair, it's that magic has an element of intent that's missing from the transaction. Even when there's trickery, there's usually bad intent (i.e. guy thinks he's hiring a hitman to kill his business partner, but actually signs away his soul).


Frankenbuddha - Oct 14, 2014 6:22:10 pm PDT #26058 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Points vociferously at Vortex's post.

Not sure fair or intent comes into this though. It really didn't as far as Henry's initial fate was concerned for sure.