Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.

Gunn ,'Power Play'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 12, 2014 3:29:12 pm PDT #25490 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Nothing scripted aside from Derek angrily slamming Stiles against some scenery on a few occasions, anyway. Hey, if it worked for Buffy and Spike...

Back when I was first watching Season 1, it amazed me that fans were pairing Derek up with Stiles rather than Jackson, given his habit of stalking and cornering the latter in a state of undress and meeting up with him in the woods at night.

A couple of things I'll give the series props for are making Scott and Stiles' friendship the emotional core of the show and depicting parent-child relationships just right.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2014 3:39:16 pm PDT #25491 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would have paired Derek with Scott until it became apparent that Scott was too good for him....but he's not in Stiles' league either.

I guess the point is pairing the guy you think is the coolest with the guy you think is the hottest?

It is definitely remarkable that they pulled off two great single parent families, and now aren't doing too badly with Scott's dad either. But it really would have been great if there'd been any real "well, *our* showrunner is GAY" payoff in depicting great relationships in that category.

Where was Danny last seen anyway?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 12, 2014 3:46:37 pm PDT #25492 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Season finale of 3B, where he revealed he was in the know about werewolves, specifically that he'd been macking on one. Word is that he's no longer on the show, but I haven't seen anything saying whether it was a writer decision or on the part of the actor.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2014 4:10:29 pm PDT #25493 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess his lack of presence is word enough. It's just...there was this fleeting moment where it felt like representation was around the corner. Right up until the point was made that it was a prejudice free universe, so the line outing the vet was removed because it had a negative in-universe response to his sexuality.

Which just reminded me of a question to ask in another thread...


Morgana - Aug 14, 2014 6:46:36 pm PDT #25494 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Ack! I just discovered tonight that Sleepy Hollow's been playing reruns on Thursday nights. I am now kicking myself for not knowing this.


-t - Aug 15, 2014 6:58:00 pm PDT #25495 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I like most of the not entirely sense-making stuff going on on Defiance, but the mayor just seems kind of arbitrarily nasty.


Tom Scola - Aug 19, 2014 3:55:17 am PDT #25496 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So a couple of days ago, the Gotham TV show put up signs in my neighborhood that they were going to be filming. Last night they started clearing a whole block to make room for the production vehicles -- like, towing cars and stuff. But this morning, the block was empty, and none of the crew had arrived.

My neighborhood is used for various TV and film shoots constantly, and I've never seen that happen before. It's probably a sign that production on Gotham isn't going smoothly.


-t - Aug 19, 2014 3:57:53 am PDT #25497 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, that doesn't sound good. Sounds like a PITA for your neighborhood, too.


Jessica - Aug 19, 2014 3:14:11 pm PDT #25498 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So a couple of days ago, the Gotham TV show put up signs in my neighborhood that they were going to be filming. Last night they started clearing a whole block to make room for the production vehicles -- like, towing cars and stuff. But this morning, the block was empty, and none of the crew had arrived.

The pilot looked like it was entirely shot on a sound stage, so maybe they all forgot they needed an actual location today?

(Also, the pilot was incredibly stupid. Truly, deeply, very, very, stupid. I'm not even sure Ben McKenzie's worried-puppy-dog face can lure me into watching any more, and I *love* that face.)


-t - Aug 19, 2014 3:20:17 pm PDT #25499 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, no, really? I was all set to love Gotham.