We have not. I find it interesting that he was raised by his birth parents, if not his genetic parents, and, yeah, I really hope he ends up being fleshed out more.
I generally agree with that review, as well.
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DebetEsse - Jun 08, 2014 6:12:58 am PDT #25238 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
-t - Jun 08, 2014 6:48:32 am PDT #25239 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I don't.
Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2014 6:55:28 am PDT #25240 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
It's 2 to 1, you're outvoted, we're throwing you in the Brig.
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Amy - Jun 08, 2014 7:05:09 am PDT #25241 of 30001
Because books.
I more or less agree with that review, too. I don't think Tony was as convincing, or as fully formed, as the other clones, and the fact that no one was questioning Helena's whereabouts seemed really sloppy.
On the other hand, I liked the intercut of Rachel's discussion with Ethan and her trashing her desk, but I think that was because I read it as Rachel being furious that her creators had so clearly decided her biological limitations, and taken away her opportunity to choose.
For the first time, I felt like there was a little bit too much going on for me to follow it properly.
sj - Jun 08, 2014 7:05:40 am PDT #25242 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I agree with the article in that I don't like that no one seems to care where Helena is and that the make-up department totally failed in creating Tony, but overall I still really liked this episode.
billytea - Jun 08, 2014 7:14:20 am PDT #25243 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
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DebetEsse - Jun 08, 2014 7:32:59 am PDT #25244 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Even in the right thread, justice is not put to a vote.
Trial by combat!
In on-topic, I agree with sj and Amy.
Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2014 7:40:38 am PDT #25245 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
On the other hand, I liked the intercut of Rachel's discussion with Ethan and her trashing her desk, but I think that was because I read it as Rachel being furious that her creators had so clearly decided her biological limitations, and taken away her opportunity to choose.
I was a little confused about what was going on there, but I did figure it was her reaction after Duncan had gone (confirmed by the writers). I do agree, however, that we haven't gotten enough about Rachel to make her reaction make sense. That reaction is characterization rather than an extension of her characterization.
the make-up department totally failed in creating Tony
It was disappointing what a half-assed job it seemed to be, compared to what they do for everyone else.
The whole "whatever, Helena's off being Helena" was weird too.
Also, in a typically well written show, I could not believe there was an exchange in which Duncan said something and then Mrs. S repeated what he had said with names as if the audience didn't know who the fuck he was talking about.
amyth - Jun 08, 2014 8:08:38 am PDT #25246 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
I'm with you, -t.
-t - Jun 08, 2014 8:10:12 am PDT #25247 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Whew. I was ready to be the cheese that stands alone, but it is always nice to have company.