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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


beekaytee - Jun 04, 2014 6:02:32 am PDT #25213 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I spent enough time wondering where to comment on Crossbones that I gave up, so I'll jump in where tommyrot dared to tread.

I wasn't going to watch because, eh, I loved Under the Black Flag SO much, that my pirate experience is sort of complete.

BUT, Moist von Lipwig (Richard Coyle) is in it!

I really enjoyed the first episode...much more than I expected too, primarily because of the casting and possible plot connections to Longitude.

Then, I watched a review of it on "Just Seen It" (hulu) and now I'm worried. Three different directors for the first 3 episodes...all three critics used words like 'awful.'

Still, I'll stick until I can't any more.

I like the that piraty stuff is less eye patch/parrot and more commerce/personal journey.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2014 6:48:39 am PDT #25214 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Only seen the first. Did not find it awful. The actors all seem at least competent. The first episode is fast paced. Yeah, idea of a marine chronometer being successfully developed in 1712 is not entirely plausible. But then again we don't know for sure that the thing actually works. So far, two strong women characters, neither of whom is a prostitute or Conan with tits. They may yet prove stereotypes in other ways, but ... The passionate treacherous cruel Spaniard is well on her way to being one, but she also apparently a super-geek which tempers the stereotype a little bit. And one kind of expects pirates to be passionate, treacherous, and cruel: so I'm willing to give that character a chance to develop.


beekaytee - Jun 04, 2014 7:45:58 am PDT #25215 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I love that she is the 'science mind' on the scene and holds everyone's respect. And, that the other female lead is a director for procurement and distribution!

Refreshing.


Vonnie K - Jun 04, 2014 8:02:14 am PDT #25216 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I finally caught up with the finale of Warehouse 13 and the only thing I can say is:

WTF Pete/Myka WHHHYYYY

I mean, I have a hair-trigger for partnershipping usually, but these two NEVER had any kind of romantic chemistry. It's like they hooked up two squabbling siblings as each other's consolation prize, like, talk about a world of DO NOT WANT.

I did like the epilogue with Claudia though.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2014 9:33:55 pm PDT #25217 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Actually I thought they had plenty of chemistry in season one. Then they made Pete goofier and douchier, and totally spoiled the chemistry - turning it to brother sister at best. Though Pete & Myka never had the chemistry Helena & Myka had.


WindSparrow - Jun 05, 2014 3:42:54 am PDT #25218 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

The thing is, if they had gone the way of forming a platonic family - having a child or two together because Mykes and Pete wanted to have a child with the person they love most even if it wasn't a Great, Sexy Love, I could have seen it eventually taking that left turn from platonic to romance. Eventually. But... they way it was presented was just too unfounded.

Maybe that was originally the plan, but there just wasn't time. So what they gave us was the shorthand version. Still, I really didn't feel it.


WindSparrow - Jun 05, 2014 3:46:08 am PDT #25219 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Oh great merciful heavens, I'm going to have to fic that, aren't I?

No. No, I won't do it. No way. Nuh uh.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 05, 2014 5:20:35 am PDT #25220 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That aspect of the finale was reminiscent of Angel/Cordelia to me, with everyone around them telling the two they were in love with each other. At least Myka didn't give birth to an elder god as a result?

Artie's and Claudia's segments did make it a net positive, though.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2014 7:43:13 am PDT #25221 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I too would have dug a platonic family more, WS. I think they're all exceptional enough for that--they clearly love each other, there's no need to hammer it into Love to make happy endings.

Claudia's dance number was a delight (I love when they randomly but well integrate cast talents--Ashmore wasn't bad, but damn, Lattimore was faking his way through the whole thing--props if that was character not actor), but I thought her epilogue a bit clumsy. Maybe she just hadn't had time to sink into the role of Caretaker.

Why can't agents move with the Warehouse? That seems mean. It would be a trivial "sacrifice", considering all they go through on the day to day.

Ah, anyway. Closure of some sort was needed, even if it was a bit rushed. I am def curious about how everyone else integrated back into the real world, though.

WS, if you're already writing fic...


-t - Jun 05, 2014 8:11:56 am PDT #25222 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I thought that "if I had a nickel for every time the Warehouse almost moved" comment in the epilogue meant that it hadn't moved this time and none of our people had to go back to the real world.