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'The Message'


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Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2008 5:44:46 pm PDT #2493 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Right now it's charming and cute and I like it. I'm just not wowed by it.

Yes, but you're just jaded by having spent too much time on the internets. :)

ION, I caught up on the final episodes of REAPER and damn there's a show that went into a one-trick pony vibe for too long and then blasted out of it in a BIG way. So much set up for next season, and how subversive is it where a show has a gay demon make it to heaven? If that turns out to be a trick by the devil I will hurl things at the television.

I'm afraid the weak link next season is going to be Sock - I don't know how they can gravitas the character up and have him stay Sock, yet I don't think he can stay the same and have the show go where I think it needs to without him become a complete and total annoyance (and he's pushing my personal envelope on that hard - I'm sure for some he's already crossed that line).


Consuela - May 22, 2008 9:26:33 pm PDT #2494 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have to admit that while the idea of Jack Harkness may be groundbreaking, the implementation lacks a bit, especially if you're putting him up in comparison with Buffy. Part of that, I have to say, is the acting.

I don't see (sorry, folks) many people remembering Torchwood in twenty years' time other than for the Jeopardy-level factoid that it had the first bi action hero on it.


Morgana - May 22, 2008 10:59:45 pm PDT #2495 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Re: Reaper

I agree, Sock needs to be toned way, way down. I know he's supposed to be the comic sidekick, but a lot of the time I just want to say enough already! What I would really like to see is more development of Ben. For the longest time I didn't even know his name -- he was just "the other one." But he grew on me... they kept throwing little bits of knowledge his way, and just enough hints that there could maybe be a story built up around his character. A real story, that is (for instance, he questioned how Sam's soul could be sold to the Devil on his behalf, since technically you can only do that yourself. Ben thinks about these things. Later we learned that Ben's family had wanted him to go into the priesthood.) not that stupid greencard marriage story. Both the sidekicks are important, because Sam needs their loyal backup, but Sock needs to gear it down and Ben needs to shine a little more.


Frankenbuddha - May 23, 2008 3:10:18 am PDT #2496 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I agree, Sock needs to be toned way, way down.

And I thought that's where they were going with him getting together with his ex and then, not so much. More strike collateral damage, perhaps?


sumi - May 23, 2008 4:17:39 am PDT #2497 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

From Scifi:

The second season of the British SF drama Torchwood will drop on DVD in the United States on Sept. 16 in a five-disc set containing all 13 episodes and three hours of bonus material.


sumi - May 23, 2008 4:39:39 am PDT #2498 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Ooh, TVshowson dvd says that the Blu-Ray version of season 1 of Torchwood will be released on September 16th too.


sumi - May 23, 2008 4:40:45 am PDT #2499 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Pushing Daisies regular and Blu-Ray versions also coming out September 16th.


Fred Pete - May 23, 2008 4:49:17 am PDT #2500 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I don't see (sorry, folks) many people remembering Torchwood in twenty years' time other than for the Jeopardy-level factoid that it had the first bi action hero on it.

I can't quarrel with this assessment. I think part of the problem is that Captain Jack was very different on Doctor Who than he is on Torchwood. DW was a charming pangalactic (and pantime) rogue and conman. Put him at the head of TW, and suddenly he has responsibilities -- and he's lost some of the je ne sais quoi that made him a delight to watch on DW.

Kind of like running into the partying free spirit ten years later, after a marriage and two kids.


Frankenbuddha - May 23, 2008 4:55:27 am PDT #2501 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

pangalactic

You know, whenever I see this word I expect it to be followed by "gargleblaster".


Fred Pete - May 23, 2008 4:57:32 am PDT #2502 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

You know, whenever I see this word I expect it to be followed by "gargleblaster".

Another word that might apply to Captain Jack, though not in the original Hitchhiker's Guide sense.