Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Tamara - May 22, 2008 11:02:31 am PDT #2486 of 30001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

If they started airing Atlantis on June 20th, they wouldn't have enough episodes to go all the way through November sweeps.


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 11:26:26 am PDT #2487 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In a way if Jack being omnisexual is no big deal, that is even a bigger deal.

You can have the idea of it being no big deal being wasted, or just used for cheap titillation, or you can have it say a great number of things. Right now it's charming and cute and I like it. I'm just not wowed by it.


Invisible Green - May 22, 2008 2:26:36 pm PDT #2488 of 30001

I've never seen Coupling or Queer as Folk, so I have no basis to judge either of them on, outside the Who-verse (Whoville?).

Both series are excellent, as was Steven Moffat's Jekyll series from last year.

Is Davies going to continue with Torchwood, I wonder?

I really hope so. That show could use more attention from him.


Polter-Cow - May 22, 2008 2:39:12 pm PDT #2489 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Fringe posters, with snarky commentary.

Put all the clues together and you can't help but come to one shocking conclusion: it's weird to brag about getting the Transformers writers.


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 5:19:38 pm PDT #2490 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

More on Eleventh Hour--sounds like a mess and a half.


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 5:31:18 pm PDT #2491 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, and it looks like Katee Sackhoff will be on Nip/Tuck next season: [link] (spoilery for her character interactions, and another guest star).


Jessica - May 22, 2008 5:33:57 pm PDT #2492 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I just watched the preview for [Eleventh Hour] (CBS didn't include a full pilot in their press kit), and yeah, mess is a pretty good word for what I saw. I'm almost tempted to watch it just to answer the question "WTF???" Almost.

The scene with the grapes will find its way online soon, I'm guessing. It's...yeah. I have no idea what the writers/producers were thinking. Or smoking.


Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2008 5:44:46 pm PDT #2493 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Right now it's charming and cute and I like it. I'm just not wowed by it.

Yes, but you're just jaded by having spent too much time on the internets. :)

ION, I caught up on the final episodes of REAPER and damn there's a show that went into a one-trick pony vibe for too long and then blasted out of it in a BIG way. So much set up for next season, and how subversive is it where a show has a gay demon make it to heaven? If that turns out to be a trick by the devil I will hurl things at the television.

I'm afraid the weak link next season is going to be Sock - I don't know how they can gravitas the character up and have him stay Sock, yet I don't think he can stay the same and have the show go where I think it needs to without him become a complete and total annoyance (and he's pushing my personal envelope on that hard - I'm sure for some he's already crossed that line).


Consuela - May 22, 2008 9:26:33 pm PDT #2494 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have to admit that while the idea of Jack Harkness may be groundbreaking, the implementation lacks a bit, especially if you're putting him up in comparison with Buffy. Part of that, I have to say, is the acting.

I don't see (sorry, folks) many people remembering Torchwood in twenty years' time other than for the Jeopardy-level factoid that it had the first bi action hero on it.


Morgana - May 22, 2008 10:59:45 pm PDT #2495 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Re: Reaper

I agree, Sock needs to be toned way, way down. I know he's supposed to be the comic sidekick, but a lot of the time I just want to say enough already! What I would really like to see is more development of Ben. For the longest time I didn't even know his name -- he was just "the other one." But he grew on me... they kept throwing little bits of knowledge his way, and just enough hints that there could maybe be a story built up around his character. A real story, that is (for instance, he questioned how Sam's soul could be sold to the Devil on his behalf, since technically you can only do that yourself. Ben thinks about these things. Later we learned that Ben's family had wanted him to go into the priesthood.) not that stupid greencard marriage story. Both the sidekicks are important, because Sam needs their loyal backup, but Sock needs to gear it down and Ben needs to shine a little more.