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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Steph L. - Mar 05, 2014 4:28:56 pm PST #24609 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh! Promo for next week -- there was a shot from behind of a female inmate with a blonde ponytail, wasn't there? Oh god, I want it to be Harley Quinn.


quester - Mar 05, 2014 5:11:36 pm PST #24610 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I just watched the new Agents of Shield. Are we supposed to know what GH stands for?


Steph L. - Mar 05, 2014 5:12:37 pm PST #24611 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

quester, you might want to ask that in the Jossverse thread, which is where the SHIELD discussion is taking place.


quester - Mar 05, 2014 5:13:34 pm PST #24612 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Ah! It's been so long, I'm disoriented! Thanks, Steph!


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2014 6:29:08 am PST #24613 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, on Arrow -- maybe everyone else already figured this out, but it occurred to me that perhaps Slade didn't lose his eye because Ollie shot him with an arrow. Because last night we had the scene where Crazy Dr. Ivo was going to yank out Russian guy's eye, but stopped because of bonfire shenanigans. So maybe now Crazy Dr. Ivo will yank Slade's eye.

I think maybe Slade will regret not killing Crazy Dr. Ivo right off the bat. And THEN kill him. Painfully.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2014 7:02:41 am PST #24614 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

(I'm waiting on an article right now, so I have some free time to troll the interpipes for Arrow stuff.)

What the hell, Stephen Amell is co-owner of a winery (Nocking Point Wines, of course) that has, among other wines, a wine called F*ck Cancer.

That's kind of awesome.

t edit Wait, I misread that; proceeds from their wine sales go to the F*ck Cancer charity. Still, that's pretty awesome.

I would drink the hell out of a wine called F*ck Cancer, though.


Vonnie K - Mar 06, 2014 7:02:48 am PST #24615 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

So maybe now Crazy Dr. Ivo will yank Slade's eye.

An eye for a hand!

I still think Oliver put an arrow through his eye though because that's more poetic. :)

You know, this is the first episode in a long while where I felt the stretch of the show being made on a CW budget. They tried to go so big on Amazo that I think the seams showed a bit. The pyrokientics on deck looked off and you could see the GCI. Plus, I love the action scenes on Arrow most for their creativity in hand-to-hand combats, so all the explosions and gun fights didn't do much for me -- that felt like standard action fare.

My favourite bit among the island scenes was Sara and Ollie's conversation while they prepared themselves for the battle. Oliver wants to be remembered for the man he's become, whereas Sara, whose transformation was wrought through murkier waters, wants to be remembered for who she used to be. I found that both fascinating and terribly sad.

That phone call between Ivo and his ex-wife was bizarre. If that's a set up for a future plotline, it was kinda clunkily done.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2014 7:07:21 am PST #24616 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I still think Oliver put an arrow through his eye though because that's more poetic.

I totally agree, but I don't think the eyeball scene was random. I think it was fore-eyeball-shadowing.

That phone call between Ivo and his ex-wife was bizarre. If that's a set up for a future plotline, it was kinda clunkily done.

Didn't it establish that she was sick? I assumed she's the reason he's doing Crazy Evil Mad Science -- that the Mirakuru would be to cure her.

(Having a sick wife -- *is* she his ex? I assumed she's either mentally ill or has had dementia as a result of whatever comic book illness she has, and doesn't remember they're married -- does not in ANY way make me sympathetic to Crazy Dr. Ivo, though. Hell to the no.)

And since Slade had a travel pack of Mirakuru with him on the boat, I'm assuming that somehow it'll make its way to Ivo's wife.

(Everything I'm guessing about Ivo's wife is totally speculation and probable misunderstanding from what little we got on the show last night.)


Vonnie K - Mar 06, 2014 9:31:22 am PST #24617 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

*is* she his ex?

Huh. I guess that wasn't made clear in the ep. It's possible they are still married and she just does not remember. And yeah, there has to be a link between Ivo's wife and her illness (which I still think was awkwardly inserted) and Slade being on board with Mirakuru. Who knows? Despite what Oliver has said, Ivo could be still alive! I mean, let's face it, everybody who Oliver said was dead turned up alive, except Robert (I guess he's like Uncle Ben on this show).


Kalshane - Mar 06, 2014 3:57:52 pm PST #24618 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Considering Ivo was talking to his wife's doctor discussing medication and doses earlier in the episode, my guess is they were still married and she just doesn't remember him.