I just watched. It felt all wrong. The pacing was weird, the storytelling was weird, and there were some good moments, but overall, that just didn't hold together.
You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Hil R. - Dec 26, 2013 5:32:48 am PST #24184 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2013 8:22:38 am PST #24185 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Oh my God, this is going to be such a meme.
Polter-Cow - Dec 26, 2013 8:27:02 am PST #24186 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I really ought to watch In the Loop.
Sophia Brooks - Dec 26, 2013 9:41:56 am PST #24187 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I just got to the Spanish Moss on Sleepy Hollow! At first, I thought they were weeping willows, but no....
Atropa - Dec 26, 2013 11:04:58 am PST #24188 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
I was really glad there was the Amelia Pond cameo, and her brief appearance just underscored how much I don't care about Clara. But yes, I teared up at "Goodnight, Raggedy Man."
I'm sure Capaldi is going to be a brilliant Doctor, but I'm also sure that Eleven is always going to be MY Doctor.
Sophia Brooks - Dec 26, 2013 3:04:57 pm PST #24189 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
One thing I do like about Sleepy Hollow is that so far 3 out of 5 (3out of 4 if you forget about Katrina) of the main characters are black, and the rest of the Sheriff's deparment are not all white.
Sophia Brooks - Dec 26, 2013 3:19:56 pm PST #24190 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
But is Katrina a secret Quaker?
billytea - Dec 27, 2013 2:48:02 am PST #24191 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
In spite of good moments, a hot mess. Also why the massive case of "tell don't show"?
Because Moffat?
Ok! Finally watched the Doctor Who... thing. Tried recording it last night. DVD player cut out when I turned off the TV. Missed the repeat this morning, looking after Ryan. Tonight I caught it. Basically agree with Hil and P-C.
I half expected Clara's grandmother to turn out to be named "Barbara Chesterton" or some such.
Ooh, that would've been nifty. Though I confess I'm already a little pissed off at how Clara's Impossible Girl thing is all about the Doctor rather than her. Maybe it's best that she at least get an independent ancestry.
Consuela - Dec 28, 2013 6:32:42 pm PST #24192 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I'm so glad I'm not really truly a big Doctor Who fan. Because that was... well. It was more of the same: lots of crap thrown at the viewer in the hope that we'll be all weepy and attached to the Doctor and not pay attention to the way the script is senseless.
I'm tired of everything being larger than life. Can the Doctor just, like, show up and save a little boy, or something? Why is it always the end of the universe at stake?
Also, how does it count as saving that planet when the residents all get killed in crossfire from Daleks? And how do the Silence team up with the Church of the Papal Mainframe? (Love the name of that church, though: that was awesome. As was Tessa.)
billytea - Dec 28, 2013 8:35:39 pm PST #24193 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
And how do the Silence team up with the Church of the Papal Mainframe?
I think the idea was that the Church had created the Silence in the first place, to serve as Confessors. The ones that the Doctor had fought before were serving a breakaway sect, the bunch that had kidnapped baby River Song, having decided that was the most sure-fire way to stop the Doctor giving his name.
Of course, I can't explain why anyone thought it'd be a great idea to have everyone instantly forget they'd been to confession. They'd spend all their time going back again and again. Not to mention forgetting that they were supposed to be saying two Our Fathers and three Hail Marys. (That's leaving aside just why it's a big plus to have priests that freak everyone the hell out. So to speak. Seems to me that the only thing anyone would be confessing is that they need a new pair of pants.)
It's a recurring habit of Moffat's. He comes up with cool ideas, but he tends to overstuff episodes with them and when you stop to try and fit them together, you realise it's all a bit of an incoherent mess.