Buffy: So how'd she get away with the bad mojo stuff? Anya: Giles sold it to her. Giles: Well, I didn't know it was her. I mean, how could I? If it's any consolation, I may have overcharged her.

'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 26, 2013 3:19:56 pm PST #24190 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

But is Katrina a secret Quaker?


billytea - Dec 27, 2013 2:48:02 am PST #24191 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

In spite of good moments, a hot mess. Also why the massive case of "tell don't show"?

Because Moffat?

Ok! Finally watched the Doctor Who... thing. Tried recording it last night. DVD player cut out when I turned off the TV. Missed the repeat this morning, looking after Ryan. Tonight I caught it. Basically agree with Hil and P-C.

I half expected Clara's grandmother to turn out to be named "Barbara Chesterton" or some such.

Ooh, that would've been nifty. Though I confess I'm already a little pissed off at how Clara's Impossible Girl thing is all about the Doctor rather than her. Maybe it's best that she at least get an independent ancestry.


Consuela - Dec 28, 2013 6:32:42 pm PST #24192 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm so glad I'm not really truly a big Doctor Who fan. Because that was... well. It was more of the same: lots of crap thrown at the viewer in the hope that we'll be all weepy and attached to the Doctor and not pay attention to the way the script is senseless.

I'm tired of everything being larger than life. Can the Doctor just, like, show up and save a little boy, or something? Why is it always the end of the universe at stake?

Also, how does it count as saving that planet when the residents all get killed in crossfire from Daleks? And how do the Silence team up with the Church of the Papal Mainframe? (Love the name of that church, though: that was awesome. As was Tessa.)


billytea - Dec 28, 2013 8:35:39 pm PST #24193 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And how do the Silence team up with the Church of the Papal Mainframe?

I think the idea was that the Church had created the Silence in the first place, to serve as Confessors. The ones that the Doctor had fought before were serving a breakaway sect, the bunch that had kidnapped baby River Song, having decided that was the most sure-fire way to stop the Doctor giving his name.

Of course, I can't explain why anyone thought it'd be a great idea to have everyone instantly forget they'd been to confession. They'd spend all their time going back again and again. Not to mention forgetting that they were supposed to be saying two Our Fathers and three Hail Marys. (That's leaving aside just why it's a big plus to have priests that freak everyone the hell out. So to speak. Seems to me that the only thing anyone would be confessing is that they need a new pair of pants.)

It's a recurring habit of Moffat's. He comes up with cool ideas, but he tends to overstuff episodes with them and when you stop to try and fit them together, you realise it's all a bit of an incoherent mess.


Typo Boy - Dec 28, 2013 10:27:28 pm PST #24194 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think this one was worse than usual. Worst Christmas episode ever. Maybe the worst episode in new series, I can't think of a worse episode in the original series for that matter, but it has been many moons since I watched the original Dr. Who, and I never saw all of them so maybe it is not the worst Dr. Who ever. Certainly a candidate.


Consuela - Dec 29, 2013 10:09:49 am PST #24195 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Still not worse than the one about the fans. "Love and Monsters"?


Typo Boy - Dec 29, 2013 10:26:34 am PST #24196 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Love and MOnsters was more offensive. But this was worse storytelling.


billytea - Dec 29, 2013 3:05:40 pm PST #24197 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Adventures in Doctor Who with my son. We visited the ABC Shop and checked out the Doctor Who DVDs together.

Ryan [pointing to a picture of Amy Pond]: "Is that the Doctor's Opinion?"
Me: "That's his Companion, Ryan."
Ryan: "Oh. Look, that's a picture of the Doctor's ship, the Hardest!"
Me: "He calls his ship the TARDIS, Ryan."
Ryan: "Oh, it's the TARDIS. Daddy, can I see another adventure with the Garlics?"
Me: "...I think you mean the Daleks, Ryan."
Ryan: "Whatever."


Tom Scola - Dec 29, 2013 3:18:17 pm PST #24198 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

That is simultaneously awesome and makes me wonder if his hearing needs to be checked.


quester - Dec 29, 2013 3:22:52 pm PST #24199 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

That is simultaneously awesome and makes me wonder if his hearing needs to be checked.

Tom and Ryan just made me laugh like a loon!