Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Steph L. - Nov 24, 2013 4:37:08 pm PST #23957 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, so on that timeline that Amy linked above, the Brigadier companion is who Community is referencing with Troy as Constable Reggie, yes? I wondered if Constable Reggie had an actual antecedent.


billytea - Nov 24, 2013 4:40:37 pm PST #23958 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Because Barrowman.

That should be the title of his next Broadway extravaganza.

(Barrowman's appearance in that video linked to above was fantastic.)


Amy - Nov 24, 2013 4:41:26 pm PST #23959 of 30001
Because books.

I have no idea, Tep, but I found that page yesterday. It was a confusing day for people who are not Dr. Who watchers.

I have seen "Blink," though. And Captain Jack kissing Spike. Yay?


billytea - Nov 24, 2013 5:10:09 pm PST #23960 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Okay, so on that timeline that Amy linked above, the Brigadier companion is who Community is referencing with Troy as Constable Reggie, yes? I wondered if Constable Reggie had an actual antecedent.

Not really. I don't think the Brigadier ever went travelling with the Doctor (IIRC he left the planet once or twice, as in Mawdryn Undead, but aside from that he commanded military forces protecting the Earth from invasion, and would be doing that with or without the Dcotor.) He was a military commander that saw the greatest screen time during a period when the Doctor himself was Earthbound, for Reasons. During that time, I think he was technically the Doctor's employer (not that the Doctor ever acted like it).


Shir - Nov 25, 2013 2:27:53 am PST #23961 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I do envy Jessica's workplace for having the brains and plans to celebrate the 50th birthday. And for the TARDIS. Thanks to omnis, I do have my very own cookie-jar TARDIS at work, and in more than one occasion I placed our office-dinosaurs on it (even before that Dr. Who episode aired. I swear. I've been known to be farsighted when it comes to potential use of dinosaur toys), but still - the real deal! Wow. Also, it was lovely to read about bt's watching with his kid.

So I came here because despite I have other worldliness concerns (such as sleep and read stuff for class and print shit and sleep because I stayed up late last night to watch the episode), I'm all "OMG DR DR DR OMG" within, so I had to share.

As you might have guessed, watching the 50th episode did not help one bit with my DT crush. I honestly forgot how charming and wonderful and even tiny bit of foamy he is and how motherfucking-that's-quick I'm falling for him, which is impressive, because I know this board remembers. Having MS there didn't help, because I'm incredibly fond of MS as a Doctor, so there was much rejoicing about all these Doctors, on my computer screen, making the funnys (I actually laughed out loud several times - and it's very rare to get this reaction out of me). Also, I'm still floating in a big pink cloud of crush here. Ooh, Doctors.

Now, I did figure out a lot of the twists and turns on my own, and ignored All Of The Plot Holes. I gave up on Dr. Who when it comes to plot holes, just as I accept it'll forever be a more-than-a-hint-of-colonial-show. What I'm still struggling with, every time, is the way the Doctor is constructed as the hero, while his sidekicks - which I often like more than the Doctor himself, character wise - don't get much of the love and recognition that the Doctor gets (yes, I understand the show is called "Dr. Who" and that it is about the Doctor, but the hero-centring might have been a bit more believable if the Dr.'s ass weren't saved so many gorram times thanks to these sidekicks). I also got no idea to where Moffat is taking the show now, after the tragic-hero thing is supposedly solved/never happened. But again, I gave up on Dr. Who for these things. It's a joy and a fun to watch, but being brainy, nitpickery and having your own standards for characters and plot while watching it is like trying to smear butter on a porcupine. Not really gonna work well for either side.

Everyone's act was good, but for me, Piper as The Moment shined through. Also, a very Neil Gaiman character, "The Moment". The link to Rose, however, wasn't really done well in my eyes - few of the references felt as if they're there just to be referenced, not because they were meaningful. I also didn't really like the kid-with-a-scarf character (or, well, I liked her until she started repeating over and over "the Doctor will save me" instead of thinking for her herself).

Over the weekend I watched Eccleston in "Blackout". He's such a great actor. I do wonder how the 50th episode would have been like with him on it. Man, I just want to watch DW from the beginning now. Including the old series. Hi, it might be a problematic and not really making sense show, but it's my-problematic-and-not-really-making-sense-and-good-God-when-did-I-became-so-attached-to-it show.

Last, I'm afraid that if my analytical philosophy of religion professor won't use Dr. Who for examples in the class I have afternoon, he might as well be speaking French. Which I understand to some level but I'm not fluent.


Jessica - Nov 25, 2013 3:18:08 am PST #23962 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I do envy Jessica's workplace for having the brains and plans to celebrate the 50th birthday

I found the fondant Doctor from the cake in the fridge this morning, lying in a box with bubble wrap. Pretty upsetting thing to see before coffee!


Shir - Nov 25, 2013 3:24:35 am PST #23963 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I found the fondant Doctor from the cake in the fridge this morning, lying in a box with bubble wrap.

Well, Jessica, if I were you and if I had a stationery shop near my work, fondant Doctor would have gold-paper/confetti on his hands and face by now.


Jessica - Nov 25, 2013 5:35:27 am PST #23964 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've had the original 60's Who theme in my head since Saturday. I think I need to find the hard drive where I stored all my classic Who eps and start watching again from the beginning.


Connie Neil - Nov 25, 2013 6:45:19 am PST #23965 of 30001
brillig

I hope nobody else ran into the problem of youngsters seeing Tom Baker and whispering to each other "Who is that? Should I know who that is?" I heard his voice and did a squee and people looked at me funny. Philistines.


Shir - Nov 25, 2013 6:50:27 am PST #23966 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I am the youngsters. Sorry about that.

(But I guessed him right. Because of his eyes).