I hope people who are trying to remain unspoilt are not reading--I was succinct not because I'm nice (lost cause) but because I'm on a tablet. But if we set up informal expectations we can't commit to as a thread, someone's going to get unpleasantly spoilt down the road, and I don't want that to happen.

ita, normally that is how I approach it too, but Teppy and Arrow seem to go hand in hand to me.

Anyway, here it is. Teppy, do not read further if you don't want spoilers.

So Oliver can now come and go as he wants from the island that he had to spend years trying to escape the first time?

Felicity continues to be awesome, and I love the new lair. I was really hoping Laurel was going to get killed.

That looked like a bad wig on what I assume was Black Canary. Do we think it is Laurel's sister still alive?

I liked competent bar running, Thea. Although, I thought her change of heart on her mother was way too quick. How old is she supposed to be? Is she in school at all, I can't remember.

Please give Paul Blackthorne something more interesting to do this season.

Yay, Walter! I hope he sticks around.

I wanted spoilers, so yay!

And the thread blurb says blackfont is allowed after the show airs on the East Coast -- like ita said, if I wanted to remain pure and unsullied, I would have just stayed out of the thread.

My totally unspoiled guess is that Black Canary (if it IS Black Canary) is Laurel's not-dead sister.

ION, is Tomorrow People worth watching?

My totally unspoiled guess is that Black Canary (if it IS Black Canary) is Laurel's not-dead sister.

I really hope it is. Otherwise, bringing her up every ten seconds is lame.

Teppy, glad I could help with the spoilers.

God knows Teppy loves Arrow (no, they do know), but I figured the uberfan knows what she's in for.

Deciding to trash The Hood now that it's extra tainted, and to pretend the end game name hasn't been RIGHT THERE THE WHOLE TIME is pretty ballsy, but it was a ballsy premiere all round. I guess the tension is--will he be Green? Will he change the nature of the character in place, or will he change the costume?

That's the most interesting part of the whole thing for me--going from a killer to a non-killer, from revenge driven to a saving hero is a big step, and might rehab him with at least some of the cops (from Batman's rep to Superman's?).

Since Kelly's character wears a blonde wig I was confused by the silent saviour in that ending scene. Was that a silent Black Canary for reasons, or us not hearing a familiar voice? The wig was deliberately obscuring her face.

It felt like they'd really plotted out S2 pretty early into S1, maybe locking things down when they got the back 9 (how early did they get renewed?). Despite the missed-year-in-the-summer, I liked that.

TomPeeps was eh -- nice actors, could be promising, has Satan (or at least the guy who always plays him) as the main antagonist. I'll give it a couple weeks.

I watched Tomorrow People. It wasn't bad. Is Mark Pellegrino no longer on Revolution?

I did not like Tomorrow People. Let me know if the show gets better.

I had questions about Tomorrow People but mostly because I missed the first part and kept changing channels.

I was confused because I had NO idea the Main Kid was in high school until midway through, I thought he was older, I don't think he's a good actor to pass for a teenager.

Also I understand plotwise why the Tomorrow People didn't tell Main Kid that they couldn't kill anyone (because hey big reveal a few scenes later) but you think they could have told him that at some point.

And I didn't buy the whole, "We're brothers! look this picture proves it!" I see two kids that kinda look a like that could be brothers or buddies or whatever.

I'm also wondering about the limitations on not killing. Is it direct result (shooting someone or trying to strangle them), or can they set off a bomb or teleport someone to a remote location and leave them there to die. Like the open ocean with lots of sharks, or the desert with no supplies. I mean, they may survive, they may not.