I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


askye - Oct 10, 2013 9:24:46 am PDT #23318 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I had questions about Tomorrow People but mostly because I missed the first part and kept changing channels.

I was confused because I had NO idea the Main Kid was in high school until midway through, I thought he was older, I don't think he's a good actor to pass for a teenager.

Also I understand plotwise why the Tomorrow People didn't tell Main Kid that they couldn't kill anyone (because hey big reveal a few scenes later) but you think they could have told him that at some point.

And I didn't buy the whole, "We're brothers! look this picture proves it!" I see two kids that kinda look a like that could be brothers or buddies or whatever.

I'm also wondering about the limitations on not killing. Is it direct result (shooting someone or trying to strangle them), or can they set off a bomb or teleport someone to a remote location and leave them there to die. Like the open ocean with lots of sharks, or the desert with no supplies. I mean, they may survive, they may not.


beekaytee - Oct 10, 2013 9:31:38 am PDT #23319 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I did not like Tomorrow People. Let me know if the show gets better.

Joining le nubian on the 'let me know' bench.


EpicTangent - Oct 10, 2013 10:17:07 am PDT #23320 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Yeah, guy definitely didn't look like a teenager (or someone who gets bullied and just takes it). Family accepted new brother/uncle Jedidiah WAY too easily. And guy caved and joined "Uncle Jed" WAY, WAY too easily. I could have bought it if he worked with the others to arrange to go as a spy, but just going to the "Uncle's" team 5 minutes after learning of/accepting his powers while barely able to use them? He better be about 100 IQ points less dumb than he seems so far pretty quickly or I'm out.

The no-kill thing is either really interesting or dumbest thing ever - it makes sense as a robotic law, and would make sense for these guys if they're made - but they're supposed to have evolved this way. WAY too vague to pass as evolutionary (as in askye's examples above).

We shall see.


Theodosia - Oct 10, 2013 10:43:40 am PDT #23321 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I remember that from the original, FWIW.


Tom Scola - Oct 10, 2013 10:48:50 am PDT #23322 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Like I said, I don't recall much from the original series, but I do recall it being implied that the TPs' evolution was being Guided By Aliens. I don't recall the show ever making much sense, though.


chrismg - Oct 10, 2013 11:03:17 am PDT #23323 of 30001
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

If this is a hoax, it's a seriously elaborate one, so you decide: Nine Second Doctor episodes reported found. Scroll down to the update from Lance Parkin for the details.

ASSUMING this is true, we now have the complete Enemy Of the World serial(Troughton playing the title villain as well as the Doctor) and all but one of the Web Of Fear serial(Yeti in the Underground, first Lethbridge-Stewart). So hopefully DVD releases for both of those soon.


§ ita § - Oct 10, 2013 12:14:37 pm PDT #23324 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is that a confirmation of Tom Scola "Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon" Oct 6, 2013 12:53:57 pm PDT or even more shenanigans?


chrismg - Oct 10, 2013 12:45:23 pm PDT #23325 of 30001
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

ita ! I think it's confirmation, since the top of the article seems to reference that story.

And personally, I think 9 episodes is a more likely find than the 100+ someone claimed earlier this year.


sj - Oct 10, 2013 3:53:25 pm PDT #23326 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I did not like Tomorrow People. Let me know if the show gets better.

Joining le nubian on the 'let me know' bench.

Maybe it's just because I was expecting Tomorrow People to be awful, and it wasn't as bad as that. Although, I do agree that the lead looks way to old to be a teenager.

However, I am watching Once Upon a Time in Wonderland right now, which I was expecting to be really good, and, so far, I am not impressed.


Morgana - Oct 10, 2013 4:00:22 pm PDT #23327 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

where does Arrow film (I'm assuming Blue Bloods is in the city)?

Tom Selleck was on Letterman recently and said Blue Bloods films in New York.