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'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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sj - Oct 10, 2013 7:49:42 am PDT #23312 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

ION, is Tomorrow People worth watching?


sj - Oct 10, 2013 7:50:34 am PDT #23313 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

My totally unspoiled guess is that Black Canary (if it IS Black Canary) is Laurel's not-dead sister.

I really hope it is. Otherwise, bringing her up every ten seconds is lame.

Teppy, glad I could help with the spoilers.


§ ita § - Oct 10, 2013 8:05:43 am PDT #23314 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

God knows Teppy loves Arrow (no, they do know), but I figured the uberfan knows what she's in for.

Deciding to trash The Hood now that it's extra tainted, and to pretend the end game name hasn't been RIGHT THERE THE WHOLE TIME is pretty ballsy, but it was a ballsy premiere all round. I guess the tension is--will he be Green? Will he change the nature of the character in place, or will he change the costume?

That's the most interesting part of the whole thing for me--going from a killer to a non-killer, from revenge driven to a saving hero is a big step, and might rehab him with at least some of the cops (from Batman's rep to Superman's?).

Since Kelly's character wears a blonde wig I was confused by the silent saviour in that ending scene. Was that a silent Black Canary for reasons, or us not hearing a familiar voice? The wig was deliberately obscuring her face.

It felt like they'd really plotted out S2 pretty early into S1, maybe locking things down when they got the back 9 (how early did they get renewed?). Despite the missed-year-in-the-summer, I liked that.


Theodosia - Oct 10, 2013 8:28:22 am PDT #23315 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

TomPeeps was eh -- nice actors, could be promising, has Satan (or at least the guy who always plays him) as the main antagonist. I'll give it a couple weeks.


sj - Oct 10, 2013 8:36:39 am PDT #23316 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I watched Tomorrow People. It wasn't bad. Is Mark Pellegrino no longer on Revolution?


le nubian - Oct 10, 2013 9:10:38 am PDT #23317 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I did not like Tomorrow People. Let me know if the show gets better.


askye - Oct 10, 2013 9:24:46 am PDT #23318 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I had questions about Tomorrow People but mostly because I missed the first part and kept changing channels.

I was confused because I had NO idea the Main Kid was in high school until midway through, I thought he was older, I don't think he's a good actor to pass for a teenager.

Also I understand plotwise why the Tomorrow People didn't tell Main Kid that they couldn't kill anyone (because hey big reveal a few scenes later) but you think they could have told him that at some point.

And I didn't buy the whole, "We're brothers! look this picture proves it!" I see two kids that kinda look a like that could be brothers or buddies or whatever.

I'm also wondering about the limitations on not killing. Is it direct result (shooting someone or trying to strangle them), or can they set off a bomb or teleport someone to a remote location and leave them there to die. Like the open ocean with lots of sharks, or the desert with no supplies. I mean, they may survive, they may not.


beekaytee - Oct 10, 2013 9:31:38 am PDT #23319 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I did not like Tomorrow People. Let me know if the show gets better.

Joining le nubian on the 'let me know' bench.


EpicTangent - Oct 10, 2013 10:17:07 am PDT #23320 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Yeah, guy definitely didn't look like a teenager (or someone who gets bullied and just takes it). Family accepted new brother/uncle Jedidiah WAY too easily. And guy caved and joined "Uncle Jed" WAY, WAY too easily. I could have bought it if he worked with the others to arrange to go as a spy, but just going to the "Uncle's" team 5 minutes after learning of/accepting his powers while barely able to use them? He better be about 100 IQ points less dumb than he seems so far pretty quickly or I'm out.

The no-kill thing is either really interesting or dumbest thing ever - it makes sense as a robotic law, and would make sense for these guys if they're made - but they're supposed to have evolved this way. WAY too vague to pass as evolutionary (as in askye's examples above).

We shall see.


Theodosia - Oct 10, 2013 10:43:40 am PDT #23321 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I remember that from the original, FWIW.