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'The Killer In Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 6:06:34 am PDT #23202 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the 'oh of course you know everything the hero needs instantly' moment is inevitable

But dead end interviews (with non-ethnic types) and research sessions are staples of the genre. However, if you nip into the nearest sushi restaurant, you can find a waiter to bless your sword for the spirit you need to defeat.


beekaytee - Oct 01, 2013 6:21:26 am PDT #23203 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Yeah, I can totally see that. Now, I'll never unsee it.


EpicTangent - Oct 01, 2013 7:45:38 am PDT #23204 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I'm amazed when people know stuff like that. I'm obviously the target, simple-minded audience who spends all my time focusing on the people.

This is usually me, though last night's was so bad that even I caught it. How hard would it have been to have him recognize the name of the scary monster and send them to someone else (old shaman or wise woman who was a friend of his grandmother is a handy trope that comes to mind). But instead the guy who names his car lot "Geronimotors" (with animated "tomahawk" on the sign), is also the guy who gets insulted regarding questions of folklore of his people? And also the guy who happens to know the random mystical ritual? It's like they had at least 3 different Native Americans in mind, but had the same guy play all three of them. Really lazy writing (or whoever is to blame if not the writers).


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 8:14:09 am PDT #23205 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"I'm sorry, only one guy who could pass for Native American (he's Chinese Persian) showed up to audition. We had better intentions, honest."


Zenkitty - Oct 01, 2013 8:50:57 am PDT #23206 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

how often are the all-knowing, super-useful characters actually women?

Often enough, but they're almost always black. Maybe Native American if the story is set in the Southwest. White women don't know anything. Unless they're super-talented hackers.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 9:00:37 am PDT #23207 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is an instance of recency over everything else, but I think SPN does pretty well with female resources. We did have our mystical black woman, but she managed to own her Sass (yes, capital) enough to become a beloved character from 8 seasons ago, but the second hunter resource was female (third was a black man), and their first hacker resource was a crazy white guy, second is a lesbian neck deep in fandom, so someone we almost know.

And when it comes to interviewing people, the last "witness" in the last ep I watched was a female PhD on a helpful topic.

But that sushi waiter thing was their thing in an otherwise entertaining episode.


Trudy Booth - Oct 01, 2013 9:02:30 am PDT #23208 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

White women don't know anything. Unless they're super-talented hackers.

And then they're a quirky's breath away from being complete hotties.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 9:35:41 am PDT #23209 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think they need to be any distance from complete hottie anymore.


EpicTangent - Oct 01, 2013 9:37:50 am PDT #23210 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I don't think they need to be any distance from complete hottie anymore.

Sometimes they have to take off their (apparently not necessary for vision) glasses or take down their hair.


Jessica - Oct 01, 2013 9:49:28 am PDT #23211 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Sometimes-wearing-glasses characters crack me up on TV. There never seems to be any logic to when they have them on other than "In this scene I need to look hot AND smart."