"I'm sorry, only one guy who could pass for Native American (he's Chinese Persian) showed up to audition. We had better intentions, honest."
Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.
'Serenity'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 8:14:09 am PDT #23205 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Zenkitty - Oct 01, 2013 8:50:57 am PDT #23206 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
how often are the all-knowing, super-useful characters actually women?
Often enough, but they're almost always black. Maybe Native American if the story is set in the Southwest. White women don't know anything. Unless they're super-talented hackers.
§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 9:00:37 am PDT #23207 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This is an instance of recency over everything else, but I think SPN does pretty well with female resources. We did have our mystical black woman, but she managed to own her Sass (yes, capital) enough to become a beloved character from 8 seasons ago, but the second hunter resource was female (third was a black man), and their first hacker resource was a crazy white guy, second is a lesbian neck deep in fandom, so someone we almost know.
And when it comes to interviewing people, the last "witness" in the last ep I watched was a female PhD on a helpful topic.
But that sushi waiter thing was their thing in an otherwise entertaining episode.
Trudy Booth - Oct 01, 2013 9:02:30 am PDT #23208 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
White women don't know anything. Unless they're super-talented hackers.
And then they're a quirky's breath away from being complete hotties.
§ ita § - Oct 01, 2013 9:35:41 am PDT #23209 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think they need to be any distance from complete hottie anymore.
EpicTangent - Oct 01, 2013 9:37:50 am PDT #23210 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty
I don't think they need to be any distance from complete hottie anymore.
Sometimes they have to take off their (apparently not necessary for vision) glasses or take down their hair.
Jessica - Oct 01, 2013 9:49:28 am PDT #23211 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Sometimes-wearing-glasses characters crack me up on TV. There never seems to be any logic to when they have them on other than "In this scene I need to look hot AND smart."
Typo Boy - Oct 02, 2013 12:42:26 pm PDT #23212 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
To go back a day to ita !'s comment about Sleepy Hollow. There an actual Mohawk Community Center about a 2.5 hour drive from Tarrytown NY [link] I'll bet using the siren the Ichabod and Abbey could have made it there in an hour.
The "spiritual leader" of that community actual Mohawk Shaman. With a really impressive CV. Http://www.mohawkcommunity.com/tomscorner.html
If that did not work, they cold have moved the reservation and community center closer to Tarrytown. While they were at it they could have done a few more minutes of internet seaches to get more authentic information about Mohawk Shamanism (which does in fact have a huge component centered around dreams).
§ ita § - Oct 02, 2013 12:50:31 pm PDT #23213 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
- They named the Iroquois tribe
- Abby didn't look anything up--she knew who was a shaman when Ichabod said he needed one
- The Mohawks traditionally live in wigwams not teepees
I have never said there's anything wrong with using a given non-Anglo culture in a story (that would be pushy of me). I did say they were wrong enough for this Unamerican to spot it, and they also did the 1st convenient ethnic accessory magical minority member thing.
Ginger - Oct 02, 2013 12:55:12 pm PDT #23214 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Mohawks are Iroquois. Mohawk is one the nations in the Iroquois League.