Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

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§ ita § - Aug 19, 2013 8:37:18 pm PDT #23029 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You don't need to sniff the Sheriff's boxers, Scott. You should be able to smell his crotch from anywhere in Beacon Hills pretty soon.


-t - Aug 20, 2013 3:59:45 am PDT #23030 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Their version of the devil kind of grew on me. I love Last Temptation scenarios, though.


Typo Boy - Aug 20, 2013 11:06:50 am PDT #23031 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, I think what bothered me is that he seems just too small for "The Devil". Creating werewolves and vampires while we create concentration camps and nuclear weapons? I'd be more on board with the same plot if he'd just been a powerful demon. And I should not be worrying about this. He is a goddamn McGuffin. But for some reason it bugs me a lot.


-t - Aug 20, 2013 2:06:15 pm PDT #23032 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Eh, we saw a post-ritual powered-down Devil who'd been trapped in a human body who still racked up a pretty good body count. The smallness worked for me - kind of reminded me of the recovering demons on Reaper who were rebelling against hell by performing small acts of kindness, which I loved even as I understood that it was not dramatically interesting enough to keep in the forefront of a TV show.

I was more annoyed by the unnecessariness of Hal being an Old One or whatever. I have no idea what the point of that was supposed to be. But I can ignore it just fine.


aurelia - Aug 24, 2013 3:30:41 pm PDT #23033 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I'm into S3 of Farscape now. I kind of wonder if the two Crichtons in different places development was a cost savings thing. That way the only actor on the call sheet EVERY day was Browder. Anyway, I'm past the only real spoiler I knew (the departure of Virginia Hey) and I didn't even know the when or how of that.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2013 7:05:22 pm PDT #23034 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I never even considered a cost thing so much as a "We can get away with this??!?!?!? YES!!!!" thing. I loved having the two Crichtons running around.


Typo Boy - Aug 24, 2013 7:57:14 pm PDT #23035 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

h, we saw a post-ritual powered-down Devil who'd been trapped in a human body who still racked up a pretty good body count.

Yeah, but I guess that is what I have trouble with a low powered Devil. The Devil is suppose to be really high powered. And I can see trapped, and having to evil in petty non-powered ways, like tying shoe laces together. But I have trouble with "just enough power to kill people in the one hotel", but no more. And yeah, Hal being an "old one" is as silly or more so. For some reason the Devil thing bugged me. Your random difficulty with suspension of believe not only may, but will vary.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2013 6:17:07 am PDT #23036 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That way the only actor on the call sheet EVERY day was Browder

Isn't everyone else on contract and being paid for appearing in that episode anyway>


aurelia - Aug 25, 2013 6:58:34 am PDT #23037 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

It depends on the contract. But halving the days of makeup for half the cast was probably not a small thing.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2013 7:40:14 am PDT #23038 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They could save money on supporting cast. But as far as I know, regulars aren't paid by the hour, they're paid by the season or by the episode. Crew's gonna be different, tho.