Speaking of Arrow. I only watched the first episode this season, but since there isn't much TV to watch this week, I'm catching up on it tonight. I just finished the third episode, and while it is very pretty it isn't really grabbing me. Does the writing improve at all, or is it all about the pretty? When does Barrowman enter the series? I'll probably keep watching through at least his first episode.
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sj - Apr 25, 2013 4:07:08 pm PDT #22453 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Steph L. - Apr 25, 2013 4:15:45 pm PDT #22454 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Does the writing improve at all, or is it all about the pretty?
I think it does, maybe around the 4th or 5th episode? (Which is around when Barrowman enters. But his role doesn't really ramp up until later in the season. He starts out kind of as "Hi, I'm gorgeous and vaguely probably evil or at least very shady. And now I must go.")
And the backstory gets a LOT more interesting after the first 3 or 4 epsiodes, IMO.
-t - Apr 25, 2013 4:20:27 pm PDT #22455 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Also, I wish there was a way to bring Slade Wilson and Cop Daddy together so they could be the show's cranky snarky Statler and Waldorf.
That's more than a little brilliant.
I'm not sure what you want to improve, sj, the thing I like about it is that it doesn't shy away from ethical quagmires. It did take a while to really grow on me, but I can't remember now how long. It is awfully pretty. I think you are pretty close to Barrowman showing up, though ISTR people complaining that there wasn't enough to his first few appearances, they were more in the way of teasers.
Eta: Tep's description of Barrowman's role early on is much better than mine.
sj - Apr 25, 2013 4:51:49 pm PDT #22456 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I don't like Laurel very much so far, but I do like the blonde tech girl. Can she be the female I wish Paul Blackthorne was give more interesting things to do.
Steph L. - Apr 25, 2013 4:55:18 pm PDT #22457 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I don't like Laurel very much so far, but I do like the blonde tech girl.
I'm still not a fan of Laurel, although that might be because the show is really pushing the whole angle of Laurel and Oliver MUST Be Together But Not Yet! Because I'm totally not into the idea of them as a couple.
And Felicity (blonde tech girl) is made of 100% awesome. If you like her, keep watching. (I swear she gets the best lines in every episode.)
sj - Apr 25, 2013 5:01:24 pm PDT #22458 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I'm still not a fan of Laurel, although that might be because the show is really pushing the whole angle of Laurel and Oliver MUST Be Together But Not Yet! Because I'm totally not into the idea of them as a couple.
In the episode I'm currently watching she goes from vigilantism is wrong, to I was wrong you are doing the right thing, and then back again to the first position with very little persuading to warrant such dramatic shifts in her supposed strong lawyer principles. It's making my eyes roll, but Felicity was once again adorkable and competent.
sj - Apr 25, 2013 5:06:42 pm PDT #22459 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Tea: Barrowman just showed up.
§ ita § - Apr 25, 2013 5:13:06 pm PDT #22460 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the thing I like about it is that it doesn't shy away from ethical quagmires
To me it's blithely ignoring ethical quagmires. I guess I don't feel any sense of consequence from the whole thing, so Ollie can swan around killing who he likes, and Tommy will be mad, and Diggles kind of pout, but it doesn't mean anything much in the end. And Tommy's rationale for leaving Laurel was major weaksauce.
Teen Wolf Reject's excuse for absolutely everything is also kinda paperthin. I guess I know where they're going with him, but why doesn't seem as important? Other than he has a read hoodie, which he might have stolen on his way out of Beacon Hills...
I can't lie--JAR being lawyerly for even one second was funny enough for me to log in to FB and congratulate him on same. It's a hell of a niche...
Steph L. - Apr 25, 2013 5:23:11 pm PDT #22461 of 30001
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I can't lie--JAR being lawyerly for even one second was funny enough for me to log in to FB and congratulate him on same. It's a hell of a niche...
It was weird, though -- back in the day, I would never have said he had chubby cheeks (and I'm still not saying that), but last night his face looked like he lost all his baby fat. And I get that he was lit and shot to be creepy, but still.
To me it's blithely ignoring ethical quagmires. I guess I don't feel any sense of consequence from the whole thing, so Ollie can swan around killing who he likes
Seriously. I am still waiting for some consequences to that. More than Tommy breaking up with Ollie, I mean.
-t - Apr 25, 2013 5:32:30 pm PDT #22462 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I feel like a lot of shows would have made crystal clear by now that it's perfectly okay for Ollie to kill bad guys, whereas Arrow reminds us that this is the 26th corpse and whether he got what he deserved or not it's not Justice. They could still wuss out on me, of course, but I think they haven't yet, and that is enough of a win for me.