Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2013 4:50:52 pm PDT #22440 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, I hope not. Rose is still too soon, especially for an immortal.


DebetEsse - Apr 21, 2013 5:16:56 pm PDT #22441 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

There is also River still in play, but I agree that we should not go back into Doctor/companion romance, and not just because Moffat will fuck it up beyond the telling.


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2013 6:16:10 pm PDT #22442 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're right--Rose's relationship is near in Earth time, but must be way way far away in Doctor time. Still, that's not a well needs dipping in too often. Captivated, like he was with Amy is just fine.


EpicTangent - Apr 22, 2013 7:35:54 am PDT #22443 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I just continue to be blown away by Tatiana Maslany in this show. She does an amazing job of playing not just all the different clones, but then Sarah-as-Beth and Allison-as-Sarah too.

Co-signed. And Allison finally won me over this ep.


Trudy Booth - Apr 22, 2013 10:23:36 am PDT #22444 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm intrigued by the "Your biological child? She's not adopted like mine?" and I enjoy how they rushed right past it. I had also enjoyed how they showed us the darker than her kids, an episode later showed her surprisingly white husband, and then let me wonder about it for a while... Adopted? Prior relationship? Is this some clone thing? Stupid like Dale Gribble? Opted for donor sperm from a not-matchy friend? Weird casting like Seventh Heaven where they had a kid who I spent two seasons thinking was adopted?

And if loving Fee is wrong I don't wanna be right.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 22, 2013 1:20:33 pm PDT #22445 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

On Seventh Heaven didn't they just keep accreting more vagabond children in that household as the older ones managed to escape the ball of dysfunction?


Trudy Booth - Apr 22, 2013 4:06:33 pm PDT #22446 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The original family line-up had five kids. The older four looked sooper white to me and the youngest (who seemed a good bit younger) was sort of darker with curly hair. I just figured she was adopted. I'm not sure what all happened after the first two or so seasons.


DCJensen - Apr 23, 2013 8:56:02 am PDT #22447 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

In the Doctor's personal time line, Rose was 200 years before he married River Song, and River Song has been dead/stored only slightly less time. Of course, he only had a clue how important she was when she died, having only just met her.

I've had an idea that Clara is a manifestation of River trying to break back out of the Library...


JenP - Apr 23, 2013 9:48:38 am PDT #22448 of 30001

I hope Clara is her own thing. "I'm not happy," meant something. I feel like I want to do a rewatch of episodes purely for clue hunting. Fun.

I didn't dislike the submarine episode, but this last one had some great genuinely spooky/scary stuff. The way they, well, filmed - whatever - the creature in the pocket universe before we ever really got a good look at it was so creepy.


Steph L. - Apr 24, 2013 3:11:36 pm PDT #22449 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What the hell, JAR on Arrow!!!!! How did I not know this? And sadly, he's a bad guy.

Also, I'm pretty sure that's the first time we'd gotten a totally shirtless Digg.

Also, TOMMY HOW ARE YOU SO AWESOME?

And I love cranky Slade Wilson.