And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


EpicTangent - Apr 15, 2013 9:30:15 am PDT #22392 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

This week's episode was particularly boring and really made me miss Rory and Amy.

I just kept thinking how much more interesting it was when it was Angel stuck on the sub.

Tatiana Maslany on Orphan Black is blowing my mind! I am loving that show so far!

I am impressed with the actress, but I think I'd like it better if more than one of the clones (Kasima) didn't make me dislike them so (that was awkwardly phrased - Kasima is the only one I don't actively dislike so far, that's what I was going for). It also bugs me that it's purported to be from an original idea, but reminds me so much of Anna to the Infinite Power , a book I loved in middle school.


le nubian - Apr 15, 2013 8:58:47 pm PDT #22393 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm halfway through Defiance. I don't think I like it.


Theodosia - Apr 16, 2013 2:51:00 am PDT #22394 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I watched in bits and pieces because of local news coverage that preempted the shows that my roommate wanted to see. So watched some of the first hour, and then some of the second. I figured it wasn't gelling because I wasn't seeing the flow.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2013 5:36:44 am PDT #22395 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I watched the first hour before the PBS documentary on Wonder Woman started airing, and it hadn't gelled for me by that point. A shame; I liked that the leads are a father-daughter duo, I've always enjoyed Grant Bowler's and Julie Benz's work, and of course want Rockne O'Bannon to succeed.


le nubian - Apr 16, 2013 7:24:58 am PDT #22396 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I liked the 2nd part a lot more though - perhaps because there were explosions? The end was really fucked up. So on that basis alone, I'm back for the 2nd ep.


Typo Boy - Apr 16, 2013 11:35:48 am PDT #22397 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

In terms of Orphan Black. There are only three living clones we have spent any time with. Beth and the German are dead. And while Sarah is not a good person, I think she has a redemption arc. The decision to not kidnap her daughter and to not steal the money means she has finally learned the first law of holes: when you are in one stop digging. If they can do this without actually having Sarah do the self-pitying "oh what an awful sinner I was, and look what I good girl I am now" that could be interesting. And I think her character has been written such that they can. Also a question about Felix: can a character be a stereotype AND awesome?


sumi - Apr 16, 2013 11:41:24 am PDT #22398 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Typo Boy: Felix - absolutely.

I'm enjoying Orphan Black.

I didn't realize that Defiance had started!!!

Moving has messed up my tv watching.


le nubian - Apr 16, 2013 12:16:48 pm PDT #22399 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I love Felix in spite of myself.


EpicTangent - Apr 16, 2013 1:00:35 pm PDT #22400 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Also a question about Felix: can a character be a stereotype AND awesome?

Must be, 'cause he is.

I think you're right about Sarah having a redemption arc in her future, but up to now she's been...not redeemed. I get why she's selfish, and why Allison's kinda bitchy, but I really feel like I'd be enjoying it more if they'd start working together to figure out what's up. Maybe that's why Kasima's the only one I like at this point - she seems to be trying to draw them together and solve the Mystery, not just look out for #1. But I suppose the fact that Katja was there meant that there's some intention on the part of the known clones (pre-Sarah) to gather intel and figure stuff out. I guess I'm just looking forward to more of that, and less of the snipey bitchiness.


le nubian - Apr 16, 2013 1:50:32 pm PDT #22401 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I thought we had to have the snipey bitchiness to root for them when they start working together.

I must admit, it is strange that Beth killed herself when all of this shit was going down. You take time to teach one of your sister clones how to shoot, but then you kill yourself so the others can't find info they need?

It is kind of interesting how differently the 3 clones we met focus on self-interest. Sarah is kind of terrible, but I like her for some reason. She isn't making decisions I would make, but I understand why she made them (except having sex with Beth's husband, I think she could have made another choice).