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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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EpicTangent - Apr 16, 2013 1:00:35 pm PDT #22400 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Also a question about Felix: can a character be a stereotype AND awesome?

Must be, 'cause he is.

I think you're right about Sarah having a redemption arc in her future, but up to now she's been...not redeemed. I get why she's selfish, and why Allison's kinda bitchy, but I really feel like I'd be enjoying it more if they'd start working together to figure out what's up. Maybe that's why Kasima's the only one I like at this point - she seems to be trying to draw them together and solve the Mystery, not just look out for #1. But I suppose the fact that Katja was there meant that there's some intention on the part of the known clones (pre-Sarah) to gather intel and figure stuff out. I guess I'm just looking forward to more of that, and less of the snipey bitchiness.


le nubian - Apr 16, 2013 1:50:32 pm PDT #22401 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I thought we had to have the snipey bitchiness to root for them when they start working together.

I must admit, it is strange that Beth killed herself when all of this shit was going down. You take time to teach one of your sister clones how to shoot, but then you kill yourself so the others can't find info they need?

It is kind of interesting how differently the 3 clones we met focus on self-interest. Sarah is kind of terrible, but I like her for some reason. She isn't making decisions I would make, but I understand why she made them (except having sex with Beth's husband, I think she could have made another choice).


Typo Boy - Apr 16, 2013 8:48:33 pm PDT #22402 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Having sex with Beth's husband was back when she was still making bad choices. Some of her choices were clever, but all were bad or at least ways of surviving previous bad choices. Her only *good* choices were to defend Felix, to not kidnap Kiera and to give back the money - all at the very end of the third episode. They are taking advantage of this being a series to show her as doing a lot of wrong things and then start the redemption process. If this were a two hour movie, we would have gotten five minutes of back story revealing all the bad choices, and seen the redemption start ten or fifteen minutes into the movie. One area where a series can do better story telling than a movie.


le nubian - Apr 16, 2013 9:27:22 pm PDT #22403 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Typo, but she would have had sex with him again given the opportunity! I hope she does cease, but I'm not so sure.


Jessica - Apr 17, 2013 3:54:37 am PDT #22404 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You take time to teach one of your sister clones how to shoot, but then you kill yourself so the others can't find info they need?

I thought they addressed pretty well the fact that she wasn't handling things well, was misusing her meds, etc, etc. Teaching Soocer Clone to shoot seems in line with giving away possessions before a suicide. She was making sure the others could take care of themselves.


le nubian - Apr 17, 2013 9:09:15 am PDT #22405 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yeah I could see that. I understand she wasn't coping well but she didn't leave them a note.


-t - Apr 18, 2013 5:23:44 pm PDT #22406 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I finally got a chance to watch Defiance. I like it a whole lot.

Still have not watched any Orphan Black, but continuing to record on the assumption that an opportuity will arise eventually...


le nubian - Apr 18, 2013 5:37:36 pm PDT #22407 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm telling you, you could marathon Orphan Black, no problem.


-t - Apr 18, 2013 5:57:27 pm PDT #22408 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Cool, that's probably what will happen. I just need the time to do it.


DCJensen - Apr 18, 2013 6:43:03 pm PDT #22409 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Warehouse 13 came back this week. Now with James Marsters!

With English accent and a larcenous bent.