Haven was indeed WTF. One minor point: although lack of this has never stopped ficcers from writing Nathan/Audrey/Duke, Audrey is now canonically someone with enough love in her heart for two men.
Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?
Riley ,'Sleeper'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Typo Boy - Jan 18, 2013 9:43:35 pm PST #21997 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
sj - Jan 19, 2013 5:07:39 am PST #21998 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Fringe: I love all the callbacks and sweet moments, and I'm trying not to think too hard about how Olivia and Peter could have ever gotten to that point with Etta if the Observers had never been there, they were so important to so many plot points, starting with how did Peter and Walter not drown in the lake without September to save them the night they crossed over from the other universe.
-t - Jan 19, 2013 7:56:30 am PST #21999 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Yeah, I can't think through where the reset should have left them, but I am wholly satisfied with the finale nonetheless. I'll just take their word for it that Olivia and Peter and Etta in he park not getting Invaded is the result.
le nubian - Jan 19, 2013 8:42:02 am PST #22000 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
well,
if there were no observers (and we are saying there are no observers at all, yes?), then there should be no crossing over universes in the first place. Peter in the other 'verse should have remained alive. The observer distracted him from finding the solution, yes? So technically, the Peter with Olivia should never have met her.
-t - Jan 19, 2013 8:47:16 am PST #22001 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Well, Michael knows what "should" have happened (as does Walter, to some extent anyway) so perhaps after changing the course of Observer development they put some effort into making their timeline work out "right".
Timey-wimey handwaving, etc.
le nubian - Jan 19, 2013 9:04:05 am PST #22002 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
yeah, I figure that's probably what would have happened. that's a lot of work to do across two universes!
DebetEsse - Jan 19, 2013 10:29:07 am PST #22003 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I was very worried that Peter was going to blink out of existence. I like -t's interpretation.
aurelia - Jan 19, 2013 10:43:28 am PST #22004 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Well, Michael knows what "should" have happened (as does Walter, to some extent anyway) so perhaps after changing the course of Observer development they put some effort into making their timeline work out "right".
Yep. My take isn't that there are no Observers at all, but that they evolved differently enough to prevent the invasion.
I don't think the writers wanted to undo everything from the 1st four seasons. All of that happened as we saw it. There just wasn't an invasion.
Typo Boy - Jan 20, 2013 11:07:55 am PST #22005 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Lost Girl: so they decided to make the season opener a tribute to "Women in Prison" exploitation flicks?
sumi - Jan 20, 2013 11:40:34 am PST #22006 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Aha! So that's what that was about.
NBC's JRM Dracula series has cast their Mina. She played Huntress in Arrow.