If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2012 6:36:14 am PST #21666 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am pretty sure I saw something in the previews for next week that cast a question on Carol's death.

I don't think there's any reason to assume that no body == death ever, especially in a show like this which is fairly porny about death (although somewhat shyer about the ladies). At the very least, no body=questions about death.


Strix - Nov 12, 2012 10:00:16 am PST #21667 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Hmm. I think I assumed pretty much the same as ita !, that since we didn't see the death on-screen, just the damned scarf, there's always a chance she's alive. I mean, I'm unspoiled for the comics, but no body of supporting secondary character for 3 years = we will see her again, dead or alive.

Although...why dig a damn grave? A marker, for sure, but there was a grave, a filled in, full-sized hole, right? Why do that if you're only planting a marker? Don't have time to re-watch; on a work-break. Hmm.

If Carol died for reals off-screen and we didn't see her damned shot in the head zombie body, I will be pissed, too. Anyone can die, I get that. But if it's a character I've come to know, I want to see it.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2012 10:24:57 am PST #21668 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I completely failed to get that that zombie had eaten Lori's body. Admittedly I was eyerolling something awful when it came to Rick. I don't begrudge the character his grief, but that was way boring for me.

The Governor and his daughter...MOTHERFUCKER. That shit was the sickest thing I've seen yet. So damaged, so dangerous.


aurelia - Nov 12, 2012 9:35:01 pm PST #21669 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Oh, Fringe. Damn. Just... damn. All three of the leads are breaking my heart.

Anyone else wonder if the child Observer grew up to be September?

Was there ever a point at which you felt she'd left the show?

Nope.

Some people have so much invested in being the clever cynical one, they don't pause and think things through.

Yep.


-t - Nov 13, 2012 5:29:58 am PST #21670 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Anyone else wonder if the child Observer grew up to be September?

Yup. Or if somehow Peter becomes September.


Strix - Nov 13, 2012 8:11:02 am PST #21671 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Admittedly I was eyerolling something awful when it came to Rick. I don't begrudge the character his grief, but that was way boring for me.

We are as one. I kept waiting for something important to happen in his rampage, but it was just...rampagey. Far be it from me to begrudge anyone a good, grief-stricken zombie-killin' rampage, but as far as driving the plot, nada. Even if Rick's character goes into a downward grief-spiral, we didn't need this to believe it.


le nubian - Nov 13, 2012 9:30:50 am PST #21672 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Spoilers for the graphic novel and Rick's characterization (not plot points): Beau was telling me that he liked Sunday night's ep because there is a point in the graphic novel where Rick's behavior is a bit unstable and another member of the group takes up the leadership mantel. So he was pleased that they seem to be keeping that dynamic.

Problem is that they didn't give this progression much time. Shane was alive too long and so Rick really didn't come into his own for very long, so if the above is where they are going, they didn't give the narrative threads proper time for development.


Polter-Cow - Nov 13, 2012 9:46:21 am PST #21673 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm only on volume 8, but, yeah, there have definitely been times in the comic so far where Rick has been much more unhinged than he's been on the show, so I, too, liked that they were taking him to that point.


Strix - Nov 13, 2012 10:01:36 am PST #21674 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I read the white font.

Fuck it, I'm asking for the compilation for Xmas.


tiggy - Nov 13, 2012 11:03:23 am PST #21675 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm up to issue 63 or so. i really need to get back to them.