Yeah, I was all "Dark Matters?!" That looks spicy!

bonny, one would hope they would be smarter than that. HOPE.

Theo, shouldn't that be Eville? "Welcome to Woodbury, a.k.a Eville!"

And yep, that's a pretty damn smart idea, even if yanno...eville.

Heh. Yes, from now I vote we call it Eville.

I'm kind of disappointed that Carol's death was off-screen. The character deserved a better farewell than that.

I am pretty sure I saw something in the previews for next week that cast a question on Carol's death.

I don't think there's any reason to assume that no body == death ever, especially in a show like this which is fairly porny about death (although somewhat shyer about the ladies). At the very least, no body=questions about death.

Hmm. I think I assumed pretty much the same as ita !, that since we didn't see the death on-screen, just the damned scarf, there's always a chance she's alive. I mean, I'm unspoiled for the comics, but no body of supporting secondary character for 3 years = we will see her again, dead or alive.

Although...why dig a damn grave? A marker, for sure, but there was a grave, a filled in, full-sized hole, right? Why do that if you're only planting a marker? Don't have time to re-watch; on a work-break. Hmm.

If Carol died for reals off-screen and we didn't see her damned shot in the head zombie body, I will be pissed, too. Anyone can die, I get that. But if it's a character I've come to know, I want to see it.

I completely failed to get that that zombie had eaten Lori's body. Admittedly I was eyerolling something awful when it came to Rick. I don't begrudge the character his grief, but that was way boring for me.

The Governor and his daughter...MOTHERFUCKER. That shit was the sickest thing I've seen yet. So damaged, so dangerous.

Oh, Fringe. Damn. Just... damn. All three of the leads are breaking my heart.

Anyone else wonder if the child Observer grew up to be September?

Was there ever a point at which you felt she'd left the show?

Nope.

Some people have so much invested in being the clever cynical one, they don't pause and think things through.

Yep.

Anyone else wonder if the child Observer grew up to be September?

Yup. Or if somehow Peter becomes September.

Admittedly I was eyerolling something awful when it came to Rick. I don't begrudge the character his grief, but that was way boring for me.

We are as one. I kept waiting for something important to happen in his rampage, but it was just...rampagey. Far be it from me to begrudge anyone a good, grief-stricken zombie-killin' rampage, but as far as driving the plot, nada. Even if Rick's character goes into a downward grief-spiral, we didn't need this to believe it.

Spoilers for the graphic novel and Rick's characterization (not plot points): Beau was telling me that he liked Sunday night's ep because there is a point in the graphic novel where Rick's behavior is a bit unstable and another member of the group takes up the leadership mantel. So he was pleased that they seem to be keeping that dynamic.

Problem is that they didn't give this progression much time. Shane was alive too long and so Rick really didn't come into his own for very long, so if the above is where they are going, they didn't give the narrative threads proper time for development.

I'm only on volume 8, but, yeah, there have definitely been times in the comic so far where Rick has been much more unhinged than he's been on the show, so I, too, liked that they were taking him to that point.