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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2012 3:51:17 pm PDT #21473 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I changed the channel away from Arrow when he pulled the Bruce Wayne--I dig that it's true to the character, so I'm not mad at that--it's just that I'm attached to Bruce, and when he had to play the boorish dilettante and sully the family name--broke my heart. I don't want to watch it with a character I'm not as invested in is doing the same thing--it makes me uncomfortable, yes, but it's not compelling at the same time.

So--they work that? Making his family ashamed of him because if he was a marginally decent human being everyone would work out he's a masked vigilante?


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2012 4:19:16 pm PDT #21474 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So--they work that? Making his family ashamed of him because if he was a marginally decent human being everyone would work out he's a masked vigilante?

Not really. He comes off as sort of vague and directionless, but not as a boorish dilettante. And his family doesn't seem ashamed of him.

I'm FULLY on board with the ending, though. And I'm pretty sure John Barrowman was in the preview for next week.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2012 4:59:52 pm PDT #21475 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay--if they don't work that to the max, I don't have to be in the hall, and the shirtlessness will not be wasted. I just...I don't need that twice, especially if the second time is Arnell. Though, I have to say, I love the guilt trip of a father who SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE HEAD, leaving his corpse with the kid he did so to save. No [insert stereotype here] grandmother can top that without her own weapon and a *really* long labour with no drugs.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2012 5:05:23 pm PDT #21476 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Though, I have to say, I love the guilt trip of a father who SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE HEAD, leaving his corpse with the kid he did so to save.

It basically makes the book full of Kill-These-People-KTHXBAI an afterthought.

the shirtlessness will not be wasted.

Do not waste the shirtlessness.

The Deadshot in tonight's ep is not very similar to comics!Deadshot, which makes me sad. And that's odd, because I'm okay with the departure from the comics for the other characters (I'm not really sure if Thea/Speedy, Laurel, and Tommy Merlyn are meant to be foreshadowing to character development, or just easter eggs for comics readers), but I wanted Deadshot to be comics!Floyd Lawton, damn it.

The bodyguard is rapidly becoming my favorite character.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2012 5:12:22 pm PDT #21477 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The bodyguard is rapidly becoming my favorite character.

Just the scene where he comes into the apartment last week when Kelly Hsu (fuck, that woman does *not* age--I need to get good pictures of her for provocateuse) came in, did his thing and then suspiciously sassed Ollie--I was on his team from then.

I suspect that people who don't get why Coulson was popular might not get that. But there is a not "just" supporting character thing an actor can sell minimal but decent lines with and win me over.


Kalshane - Oct 24, 2012 5:14:20 pm PDT #21478 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I want to say this was the weakest episode so far. Which is disappointing, considering it had Deadshot.

I'm kind of hoping Deadshot lived and managed to crawl away while Ollie was getting his bodyguard to the antidote.

The poisoned bullets thing seems really forced, to me. The whole idea is he never misses. Why would the poison matter, at that point?

Even there, I could kind of accept it on his sniper rounds. Calling card and all that. But the idea that he took the time to put a rare poison onto a magazine full of machine gun rounds for what is ideally his hold-out weapon just seems really silly to me.

Also, great, get your guy the antidote, but maybe you secret, filthy warehouse base isn't the best place to be treating multiple gunshot wounds to the chest.

The bodyguard is rapidly becoming my favorite character.

Yeah, Digg is awesome. I really don't care much about the other characters yet, except maybe Not!Dresden.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2012 5:18:04 pm PDT #21479 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Just the scene where he comes into the apartment last week when Kelly Hsu (fuck, that woman does *not* age--I need to get good pictures of her for provocateuse) came in, did his thing and then suspiciously sassed Ollie--I was on his team from then.

Yes, indeed.

I suspect that people who don't get why Coulson was popular might not get that. But there is a not "just" supporting character thing an actor can sell minimal but decent lines with and win me over.

I think you will like this episode, then.

I really don't care much about the other characters yet, except maybe Not!Dresden.

That's Cop Daddy, right? Not only is he kind of hunky, I'm definitely liking him.

I'm kind of hoping Deadshot lived and managed to crawl away while Ollie was getting his bodyguard to the antidote.

Right? Regardless of how closely (or not) he hews to comics!Deadshot, there will be no killing of Deadshot, yo.


quester - Oct 24, 2012 5:22:38 pm PDT #21480 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I wondered how long it would take for the Bodyguard to figure Ollie out. Kinda got handed to him. I think that will be an improvement.

I know the mother and her new hubby are evil, but I love the actors so much, I don't care.


Kalshane - Oct 24, 2012 5:28:49 pm PDT #21481 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That's Cop Daddy, right? Not only is he kind of hunky, I'm definitely liking him.

Yes.

I wondered how long it would take for the Bodyguard to figure Ollie out. Kinda got handed to him. I think that will be an improvement.

Yeah. They consistently showed him as way too competent to not figure it out. I would say the question is whether he is more loyal to Ollie or his mother (since she's paying him) but I suppose there wouldn't be much of a show if it was the latter.

I know the mother and her new hubby are evil, but I love the actors so much, I don't care.

Have we seen any hints of evil from Walter? So far the only scenes showing his mom being evil show her alone with either a flunky or with someone off-screen. I'd think her husband would be too obvious.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2012 5:31:47 pm PDT #21482 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'd think her husband would be too obvious.

He has an accent. He MUST be evil. Or possibly a model.