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I'm a big Chief fan from way back, and I... really don't like what they are doing with the character. I don't like this Chief. Complexity and moral ambiguity are all good, but it saddens me that I see so little of the Tyrol I fell in love with back in season 1 in the current incarnation.
And the stuff he said about Cally was pretty vile. Cally was flawed and Adama trying to paint her as an angel was a mistake, but the vitriol Tyrol spewed about his dead wife really turned my stomach.
I have no idea WTF they are doing with Tory's character. Nor am I that interested.
I like the Adama/Roslin scenes. The actors sold the Tigh/Six scenes, but on looking back, I don't know if the whole "pain is love and humanity" thing is as profound as they were trying to make it seem. Eh.
At this point, I'm mostly watching to see how they're going to end the series, but the little spark of excitement I had when they aired the first ep after hiatus is pretty much gone. Which makes me kind of sad.
Yeah. I'm watching not because I really like any of the characters anymore: they're all miserable or awful (or both), but because I want to see how they're going to resolve the story.
I'm supremely unfannish about this show.
t wistfully remembers the Chief of Season 1
Vonnie,
I don't think Chief believed what he said about Callie - not entirely. I think he went off the deep end to get reassigned because he felt himself a danger to the fleet in his current position.
So I think the old Tyrol is there. Especially given his eulogy for Callie. He needs to resolve his guilt though.
My lovely and telepathic TiVo tipped me to the fact that the DayBreak episodes are being burnt off. Today was the first one I saw that I hadn't seen before it got cancelled.
Damn, I liked that show. Properly tense and gripping. I really liked how they dealt with the danger of intense boredom you could get with Groundhog Daying a mystery. It's hella complicated.
LeN, you watched all the eps online, right? Am I right in remembering that they wrapped the thirteen up reasonably decently, given the circumstances?
Especially given his eulogy for Callie.
Oh, yeah. Now, the eulogy, I liked. I thought that was written and acted and filmed beautifully.
I don't know. Surely there must have been other ways to get himself out of commission if he felt he was a danger to the crew. He could have asked for a bereavement leave. People *offered* to cover for him and asked him to take some time off. But to go off on Cally, for all her faults, talking about "the boiled cabbage stench of her" in front of all the people? That's fucking harsh, and he put the weight of his wrath behind that speech, like he meant every word of it. The Chief I knew and loved, I loved for his fundamental kindness and decency. He was the heart of that freakin' ship. I'm not happy that he's a Cylon, and I don't like this downward spiral after the reveal one bit.
Sigh. I don't know. I can deal with darkness and the struggle, but I need occasional flashes of joy to balance that. Season 1 had that. It had the lovely scene between Roslin and Lee at the end of "Bastille Day" (maaaan, there's another relationship that I used to love, which has gone hell in handbasket), the scene between Lee and Adama and Kara and Adama after she crashed landed and came back from the planet, and the victory in "Hand of God". Right now, it just feels like the show is misery papered from wall to wall. Like Consuela, I'm interested in the plot, but I've lost my emotional investment on most of the characters.
ita,
yes, "Day Break" is very self-contained 13-ep arc and I would argue pretty well planned out all things considered. Once you get past ep 3 or 4, it is all pretty interesting and engaging as network shows go.
You need to watch it somewhat closely to keep track of some threads that all get pulled together. There is a lot of repetition, but the final 2-3 eps are pretty exciting.
vonnie,
I agree. I haven't had the same emotional investment since halfway through last season. Chief was fucking harsh, but was that him or his guilt talking?
Am I embarassed? Am I turned on? Am I glad that I stopped watching Moonlight? A very guilty part of me says "Yes,
yes,
No."
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