I'm a bit baffled by the theology here.

Tory says the Cylons are perfect. Or that she, at least, is perfect--she may just be speaking of the Five. Hard to tell.

Six in the brig--is that Caprica Six? I've forgotten--says they experience pain and loss, and the fact that they're learning, and learning through the experience of pain and loss, means that they were not at creation perfect, and may not be now. Which we know, experientially, is true--because if they were perfect, they wouldn't be killing one another, and they wouldn't have individuals disagreeing with others of their model.

Now Baltar announces that humanity is perfect, and that's because God loves him, and God cannot love anything which is imperfect.

I have two thoughts about this:

1. That Baltar's leading to the conclusion that humanity=Cylons. All the same thing. Which is certainly a creative solution to the argument, but one that only works if the Sixes win the little civil war they're having with Cavill and the others.

2. Of what value is a God who only loves that which is perfect? There's no grace there: he's saying God loves them because they deserve to be loved. Most human religions that I'm aware of acknowledge the imperfection of humanity, and urge people to be worthy of the love that God grants us despite our flaws.

Baltar's complacency here is kind of Calvinist, I think. No striving to be worthy of God's grace, just accept your place in the universe with no need to do any better.

I suspect this will make Lee's head explode, because Lee, of them all, is all about doing better. He thinks humanity can triumph over its baser instincts, and Baltar is saying the baser instincts are just fine the way they are.

It never occurred to me that the skinjobs are, in a sense, angels.

So no wonder they have a plan....

Something tells me Dana will appreciate this anecdote about the Torchwood cast.

... and not just Dana. EEEEEEE!!!! I'm dead from the goofy drunken cute!

Awwww!

I don't remember the Sontarans being wee like that in the original series.

The Gaius scenes for me are easily the weakest, and messing with Head!Six even more so.

I am ita. I don't like the new comical tone they're taking with the character. It doesn't fit the mood of the show at all. Chief and Adama was sad. I'm not a big Chief fan, but I hated to see him throw it all away like that. I find myself not caring about Tigh/Six/Ellen story. I care even less about Lee. I only give a damn about Adama, Roslin, Athena, Helo, and Hera at this point. Sad.

Something tells me Dana will appreciate this anecdote about the Torchwood cast.

Aw, that's just... aw.

I'm still interested in where everything is going w/ BSG. It's all a bit trippy right now, but I'm enjoying it. I can't claim even the smallest little bit of objectivity, though.

I don't like the new comical tone they're taking with the character.

Me either--not least of all because it's not amusing. It's more laughable.

I don't know what to make of Tigh and Six, but I will say that they managed to make her breasts look horrible in that top she was wearing, and then when Tigh hallucinated his ex instead, she filled it out much much better. But that's about my entire response to those scenes.

While watching the most recent BSG, it occurred to me what Baltar's religion/philosophy was reminding me of--Christian Gnosticism. I just finished reading Lost Christianities by Bart Ehrman, and he has an excellent explanation of what exactly Gnostics believed (in general).

Boiled down, it's that all human souls were originally divine, but being made mortal, they are degraded and lose that divinity and perfection. It is only in learning/remembering that inner divinity that true gnosis (knowledge) is achieved. Those that achieve that knowledge have the best opportunity to be restored to that divinity upon death.