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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Vonnie K - Apr 27, 2008 6:10:51 pm PDT #2065 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Especially given his eulogy for Callie.

Oh, yeah. Now, the eulogy, I liked. I thought that was written and acted and filmed beautifully.

I don't know. Surely there must have been other ways to get himself out of commission if he felt he was a danger to the crew. He could have asked for a bereavement leave. People *offered* to cover for him and asked him to take some time off. But to go off on Cally, for all her faults, talking about "the boiled cabbage stench of her" in front of all the people? That's fucking harsh, and he put the weight of his wrath behind that speech, like he meant every word of it. The Chief I knew and loved, I loved for his fundamental kindness and decency. He was the heart of that freakin' ship. I'm not happy that he's a Cylon, and I don't like this downward spiral after the reveal one bit.

Sigh. I don't know. I can deal with darkness and the struggle, but I need occasional flashes of joy to balance that. Season 1 had that. It had the lovely scene between Roslin and Lee at the end of "Bastille Day" (maaaan, there's another relationship that I used to love, which has gone hell in handbasket), the scene between Lee and Adama and Kara and Adama after she crashed landed and came back from the planet, and the victory in "Hand of God". Right now, it just feels like the show is misery papered from wall to wall. Like Consuela, I'm interested in the plot, but I've lost my emotional investment on most of the characters.


le nubian - Apr 27, 2008 7:11:21 pm PDT #2066 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

yes, "Day Break" is very self-contained 13-ep arc and I would argue pretty well planned out all things considered. Once you get past ep 3 or 4, it is all pretty interesting and engaging as network shows go.

You need to watch it somewhat closely to keep track of some threads that all get pulled together. There is a lot of repetition, but the final 2-3 eps are pretty exciting.


le nubian - Apr 27, 2008 7:15:03 pm PDT #2067 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

vonnie,

I agree. I haven't had the same emotional investment since halfway through last season. Chief was fucking harsh, but was that him or his guilt talking?


Juliebird - Apr 28, 2008 1:02:03 am PDT #2068 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Am I embarassed? Am I turned on? Am I glad that I stopped watching Moonlight? A very guilty part of me says "Yes, yes, No."

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Fay - Apr 28, 2008 2:09:51 am PDT #2069 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oooh! Okay, I need to finish watching the DVDs, in that case. I mean, it's nice to see Sophia Myles pretending to be American, and I'll watch most genre telly 'cause even when it's crap, for me there is a certain perverse pleasure to be got from shouting at the telly about stupid things like immortal (but highly flammable) vampires having open flames lying around in their bedrooms/apartments etc etc etc ad infinitum...but mostly I'm liking the slash. Yes siree bob. (Also, I do like that whole wall of books he has. Nice design. Although I'd want the cubes to be smaller, myself.)


Jessica - Apr 28, 2008 4:31:16 am PDT #2070 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

it occurred to me what Baltar's religion/philosophy was reminding me of--Christian Gnosticism.

Oh god, now I'm not going to be able to stop mapping the BSG characters onto The Matrix. Lord help us all if Baltar turns out to be Neo. (Nah, he's clearly Morpheus. Maybe Starbuck is Neo.)

(Cavill as the Architect? Six as the Merovingian?)

I don't like the new comical tone they're taking with the character.

Comical? Huh, I don't see it. There's a lot less slapstick involved here than there was in S1, that's for sure. I feel they've pushed the level of crazy way past funny and over into scary.

I think the Chief and Baltar are going along similar paths right now, actually. Baltar has his manic hallucinations and Tyrol has his ugly violent lashouts (verbal and physical), and they've both been pushed beyond the point of control. I don't think either one is a new aspect of the character, they're just closer to the surface now. (Or in Baltar's case, right up on the surface and rubbing off on his little tribe of fanatics.)


sumi - Apr 28, 2008 4:35:26 am PDT #2071 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

You missed Josef TURNING Mick?

Oh, that's so sad.

I agree with the theory that the Chief was being an ass on purpose so that he would get fired because he's afraid that it was programming not human error that made him mess up Racetrack's machine.

SCC dvds coming in August.


Tamara - Apr 28, 2008 7:30:40 am PDT #2072 of 30001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I thoroughly enjoyed Moonlight this week. Of course, I have very low standards when the boys are pretty.


Glamcookie - Apr 28, 2008 7:35:49 am PDT #2073 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I don't like the new comical tone they're taking with the character.

Comical? Huh, I don't see it.

The conversation he had with Head!Baltar a week or two ago and the silly Six-holding-him-up in last week's ep are two examples. To me it's pretty jarringly comical and I don't like it.


sumi - Apr 28, 2008 10:46:26 am PDT #2074 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Doctor Who: Was Donna's grandpa also the newspaper seller from "Voyage of the Damned?"