Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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§ ita § - Mar 26, 2012 5:51:04 am PDT #19795 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm looking at google image search results for 'shock waves zombie'. Is this the zombie in question, even if it's not the shot?


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 26, 2012 5:51:49 am PDT #19796 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yep, bald with welder-type glasses.


Consuela - Mar 26, 2012 7:24:50 am PDT #19797 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Lance Henricksen is in the Korra credits! And Eva-Marie Saint! WTF.

ION, I saw Fringe last night. If I express dissatisfaction with the outcome, does that mean I have no romance in my soul?

Also, if the love of Peter's friends/family is responsible for bringing him back from nothingness, what about the people who died in this reality because Peter wasn't there to save them? Shouldn't the love of their friends/family have brought them back, too?

I'm going to mourn the lost possibility of Olivia/Lincoln: I thought they had a really nice insomniac's rapport going.


aurelia - Mar 26, 2012 10:52:06 am PDT #19798 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Do we know of anyone who died because Peter wasn't there, aside from Olivia's stepfather?


§ ita § - Mar 26, 2012 10:57:52 am PDT #19799 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Anyone he helped save, maybe, in the earlier seasons? Or did those circumstances not arise?


-t - Mar 26, 2012 6:07:27 pm PDT #19800 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm not sure how I feel about Olivia deciding to give up her memories so she can be with Peter. I don't completely understand what the Amber reality is anymore, though, so maybe that was inevitable.

I also like Lincoln/Olivia, in the Amber universe and Red (it's possible I have forgotten which is which, but I guess if those are gone for good it doesn't matter? So confused.)


le nubian - Mar 26, 2012 6:13:10 pm PDT #19801 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

they weren't her real memories though.


-t - Mar 26, 2012 6:15:17 pm PDT #19802 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They were before Peter came back.


Consuela - Mar 26, 2012 6:19:18 pm PDT #19803 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

They were before Peter came back.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more angry I am about it. Olivia is giving up everything she is and knows in exchange for a mere possibility of romance with the least interesting character in the show.

It really pisses me off. I liked this Olivia, and she really did live that life, and have those experiences, and the show has decided that they're less important than shmoopy kissy-face with Peter.


le nubian - Mar 26, 2012 6:22:23 pm PDT #19804 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

-t,

but it was a manufactured reality. It shouldn't have existed in the first place.