I'm guessing Brad Garrett wanted more money?
There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.
Jasmine ,'Power Play'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 10, 2012 9:35:26 am PST #19317 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Frankenbuddha - Feb 10, 2012 6:15:26 pm PST #19318 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Holy Crap! Does that mean there is now bleedthrough to Peter's universe?
aurelia - Feb 10, 2012 6:17:30 pm PST #19319 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
There's something.
I think Olivia's situation has more to do with Nina's tampering than with Mr. Jones' device.
I don't even know what this show is doing to me.
le nubian - Feb 10, 2012 6:23:06 pm PST #19320 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Frank,
I was always under the assumption, that the universe he is in is his "own." That he really didn't have anywhere to go back to.
I think his presence is bringing people's "memories" back.
I was startled when there was a suggestion on the show that he needed to "go back" somewhere. I never did think that's what happened to him.
victor infante - Feb 10, 2012 6:26:20 pm PST #19321 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Holy Crap! Does that mean there is now bleedthrough to Peter's universe?
I'm gonna go out on a limb, and bet that there is no other universe, at least that we've seen. The two universes that we've seen before have been rewritten, rather than Peter now being in a third and occasionally fourth one. That being said, I can see why that might be a harder conclusion for Peter to come to leap to on the face of it. So Olivia really is remembering things. Whether that's because of exposed proximity to Peter, because of Nina's experiments or some combination of the above, however, is still up in the air.
aurelia - Feb 10, 2012 6:42:38 pm PST #19322 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Oh, yeah... I differentiate between timeline and universe. The amber timeline contains the red and blue universes in which both Peters died as children. So we're talking about bleedthrough to the original timeline in which the redverse Peter survived, but grew up in the blueverse. Ha.
aurelia - Feb 10, 2012 7:10:19 pm PST #19323 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
So... if the timelines merge, is Olivia's step-father alive or dead?
aurelia - Feb 10, 2012 8:00:19 pm PST #19324 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Fringe scoobies! [link]
Polter-Cow - Feb 10, 2012 8:17:35 pm PST #19325 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Oh, yeah... I differentiate between timeline and universe. The amber timeline contains the red and blue universes in which both Peters died as children. So we're talking about bleedthrough to the original timeline in which the redverse Peter survived, but grew up in the blueverse. Ha.
Yep. Like le nubian, it's confused me that Peter has to go "back" to his timeline. Which would imply that there are multiple timelines, all with multiple universes, and I don't know how reality can handle it. Yet if this Peter-less timeline is now reverting back to the original timeline, do people disappear and reappear accordingly? I thought what was happening in Westfield was a merging of timelines, not universes, hence Olivia's bleedthrough. And I presumed that one guy was dead in the original timeline, which is why he was immune. But that wouldn't explain the woman who was immune but then went crazy anyway, which could be explained by her doppelganger traveling into Westfield.
I think David Robert Jones is going to try to merge the redverse and blueverse entirely, though. That's obvious, right? And it's going to succeed, and that's the finale, and everyone will have two lifetimes of memories, and the cast will get yet another version of themselves to play.
Still wondering about the timeline issue, though.
Atropa - Feb 10, 2012 8:47:53 pm PST #19326 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Bryan Fuller's Munsters remake not on the table due to difficulties in casting.
Considering how cranky a lot of the target audience was about the rumored story changes, I think that's for the best.