River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Theresa - Nov 26, 2011 5:24:37 am PST #18830 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Merle was awesome. Both on the episode and Talking Dead. If they could figure out a way to bring him back without being a zombie, I'd be happy. I thought "Merle" gave great background to fill out Daryl's character. I liked that he was a construct of Daryl's that included all of the real Merle's heinous attributes but ultimately did help Daryl survive.


beekaytee - Nov 26, 2011 5:54:21 am PST #18831 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

If anyone is still watching Sanctuary. I was just sad for them this week. The semi-musical aspect was just...weak.

No sci-fi show for the next 10 years should even attempt a musical episode to avoid the certainty of paling in comparison. Joss owns that territory.


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2011 6:16:06 am PST #18832 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought Fringe had a very entertaining musical episode. Sci Fi is much harder to work musical into, but they did it well. Joss's territory was fantasy, and he wasn't the first to go there. Xena did it way earlier, and did it well too. But they never get credit.


beekaytee - Nov 26, 2011 6:51:46 am PST #18833 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I don't think I saw that Xena episode. I'll have to check that out.


le nubian - Nov 26, 2011 6:53:44 am PST #18834 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Bonny I agree. I thought the musical element was quite weak. The plot was unbelievable as well. What the fuck did Will think the options were? I did not understand why he pitched a fit over Magnus' solution. What would Plan B, C, or D be? Yes?


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2011 6:59:11 am PST #18835 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you told me I had to sing (see conversation in Natter) I'd pitch a fit and try and leave it up to someone else to take care of it. ::shudder::


beekaytee - Nov 26, 2011 7:11:36 am PST #18836 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

It seemed that Will just wanted the ick to go away in that irrational way that people over the edge can expect. The choosing of which pain to exact becomes the choice to not choose.

I didn't like how they made his rational character suddenly go all gooey, but I could see why it would happen.

The thing that reaaallly bugged me was the volume of lead balloons they launched.

The musical interlude with the heads of the other houses, for instance. When that was going on I got all, 'It's a pandemic!' panicky. But no. No follow through.

Canadian guy blasts Henry in his guilt...What can I do to make this right?...and then we never see him again? Feeble.

The part I really DID love, and which almost justified the rest of the whole ugly mess, was Jim Byrne's solo. I just love his voice.

I only wish they'd used that particular conceit to greater effect.


Theodosia - Nov 26, 2011 8:53:11 am PST #18837 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Yes to Byrne's solo.. especially because he's a pro musician. But I wish the rest of the episode had been up to it.


Jon B. - Nov 26, 2011 10:11:10 am PST #18838 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't think I saw that Xena episode.

Two episodes, actually. But I remember one being a lot better than the other.


Tom Scola - Nov 26, 2011 10:13:04 am PST #18839 of 30001
hwæt

I remember the music being horrible.