Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Theodosia - Nov 05, 2011 9:41:12 am PDT #18656 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oooh, they got the second episode of GRIMM up on Hulu right fast, so I don't have to miss it. Alas, I suspect that the show isn't going to last long in its death slot.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 10:33:54 am PDT #18657 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I'm only halfway through this week's TVD, and the original witch is white? Yet there's a black witch hanging out with her? But she doesn't get to be original? She's just the other witch that was there at the time, like all the other black people in Nordic Land back in ye olden times?


-t - Nov 05, 2011 12:10:23 pm PDT #18658 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, the whole witch mythology is ridiculous and disappointing. Well, not exactly disappointing, it's been bad all along I shouldn't expect any better, but still, the Original Witch business seems like a whole other level of WTFery. And yet I enjoy Alaric and Damon pretty much anytime they're on screen together, so I guess I keep watching.

But I came in here to talk about Walter saying Peter isn't his son. So sad! And wrongheaded, but in typical Walter fashion.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 12:22:10 pm PDT #18659 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I get that it wasn't Nordic land--it was America 1000 years ago. Duh. Both the Nordic types and African types can make a pitch for having crossed those waters, so I'll let it slide, but the witch crap is bullshit.

I'm having a hard time buying the transcendency of fraternal love, even though that's what I tune into Supernatural for every week. It's not like I don't believe in the principle, obviously. I just never got it here. But if they say so, 'tis so.

Oh, this Walter, torturing himself, denying himself that which he wants the most because it's what he wants the most, and he doesn't deserve that. I wonder if they'll adjust the A world so that they remember him, or if they'll keep this distance, or if he'll earn back a closeness.


aurelia - Nov 05, 2011 4:35:43 pm PDT #18660 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I think the relationships will have to be earned again.

Poor Walter never got his white tulip.


Theodosia - Nov 06, 2011 5:34:06 am PST #18661 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Just wanted to say "Yay TESLA!" for Sanctuary. Show gets more (at all?) interesting when he shows up.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2011 5:41:31 am PST #18662 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How does he fit so many teeth in his mouth? It's creepy, but I don't know that it's FX.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2011 4:05:54 pm PST #18663 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Anybody watching The Secret Circle? I think it's cute. I finally realised what doesn't grab me about Vampire Diaries. There are no do-gooders. No one thinks "These things are bad. They hurt people. We should stop them." Not the protagonists, anyway. They're barely even willing to fight for each others' lives. It's a supernatural teen drama. Not a supernatural heroic drama. Which is why I don't think it should be compared to Buffy. They're just not doing the same things.

Anyway, back to Secret Circle. I'm not sure what the mythos is yet. Hell, I'm not sure how old they are. But I like how they're trying to work out the world around them, and I feel like there's a supernatural quest that's more important than their interpersonal dramas.

I doubt it'll match it for pace, or Supernatural or Buffy for emotional impact, but I do enjoy it so far.

eta: Huh. They went there. The CW is a ballsy little almost-network.


Theodosia - Nov 06, 2011 7:02:06 pm PST #18664 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I liked this episode of OuaT. I'm thinking that the show would have been better as a mini-series, because I can't imagine what they'll do in a second season, but it may hold me through the year.


DCJensen - Nov 07, 2011 2:48:27 am PST #18665 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

OuaT certainly has lush production values.

I like identifying the storybook characters. I immediately said "Sleepy!" when the guard yawned.