Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Nov 05, 2011 7:25:49 am PDT #18650 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

How is he a competent agent without the Intersect? When did he actually learn spycraft? I thought he had just been operating under implanted knowledge and not learning anything.

All the Intersect gave him was information about people and the occasional fighting/technical skills. I assume he picked up spycraft by, you know, going on missions all these years. He knows how things work in general.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 7:45:52 am PDT #18651 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But he never trained. He never was instructed. He just showed up and flashed, it seemed like. He was pretty much a comedic doofus until they yanked the thing out of his head, and that he'd never passed the test they set for him.

Now he's all serious competentballs.


aurelia - Nov 05, 2011 8:53:26 am PDT #18652 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

He actually was trained for a while before Superman showed up.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 8:56:10 am PDT #18653 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So it's just magical TV world where it takes a couple of months to get spycraft up to snuff and I should just let the fact that they let him be the Falstaff pretty much all the way up to Morgan getting Intersected go, because that's just not this show, huh?


aurelia - Nov 05, 2011 9:06:36 am PDT #18654 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I feel like they made the leap to competent spy (and yes it was a leap) last season. Wasn't that pretty much the point of having Morgan coming on missions then, to keep a buffoon around?


Polter-Cow - Nov 05, 2011 9:11:29 am PDT #18655 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yep.


Theodosia - Nov 05, 2011 9:41:12 am PDT #18656 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oooh, they got the second episode of GRIMM up on Hulu right fast, so I don't have to miss it. Alas, I suspect that the show isn't going to last long in its death slot.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 10:33:54 am PDT #18657 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I'm only halfway through this week's TVD, and the original witch is white? Yet there's a black witch hanging out with her? But she doesn't get to be original? She's just the other witch that was there at the time, like all the other black people in Nordic Land back in ye olden times?


-t - Nov 05, 2011 12:10:23 pm PDT #18658 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, the whole witch mythology is ridiculous and disappointing. Well, not exactly disappointing, it's been bad all along I shouldn't expect any better, but still, the Original Witch business seems like a whole other level of WTFery. And yet I enjoy Alaric and Damon pretty much anytime they're on screen together, so I guess I keep watching.

But I came in here to talk about Walter saying Peter isn't his son. So sad! And wrongheaded, but in typical Walter fashion.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 12:22:10 pm PDT #18659 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I get that it wasn't Nordic land--it was America 1000 years ago. Duh. Both the Nordic types and African types can make a pitch for having crossed those waters, so I'll let it slide, but the witch crap is bullshit.

I'm having a hard time buying the transcendency of fraternal love, even though that's what I tune into Supernatural for every week. It's not like I don't believe in the principle, obviously. I just never got it here. But if they say so, 'tis so.

Oh, this Walter, torturing himself, denying himself that which he wants the most because it's what he wants the most, and he doesn't deserve that. I wonder if they'll adjust the A world so that they remember him, or if they'll keep this distance, or if he'll earn back a closeness.