Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....

Giles ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 10:37:24 am PDT #18237 of 30001

Well, the Observer in the diner did say "They can never know the boy lived to be a man," which contradicts that Peter never existed, which is the distinct impression they gave last season, of course, so, in conclusion, I don't know.

I can't imagine Joe F was only hired for that brief appearance, so I'm guessing he'll be back. He is so engaging. I miss him! Weirdly, I just watched the SGA ep last night where he turned into that hybrid bug thing, so it was kind of funny to see him in Fringe with ooky transformed skin again. (My internet connection went out last night, which meant no Fringe until this morning, which meant SGA DVDs last night. Funny!)


aurelia - Sep 24, 2011 10:39:06 am PDT #18238 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Wyman has implied that Walter would've gone over for some other reason. They had the window into the other side. Scientific curiosity or military pressure to develop technology? Who knows?

Or it could be that Peter did exist as a boy, but died in both worlds. I wondered about that when Walter said that sometimes people die twice.


le nubian - Sep 24, 2011 11:09:34 am PDT #18239 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If Peter died as a boy, I wonder if his "mother" didn't die? Her guilt wouldn't have lasted nearly as long.


Theodosia - Sep 24, 2011 1:51:27 pm PDT #18240 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Timey-wimey wibbly-wobbly stuff.


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 4:08:59 pm PDT #18241 of 30001

Hey, so, David Hewlett is in tonight's Sci-Fi movie! I believe I will watch. I miss him on my screen, too.

It's called Morlocks.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 24, 2011 5:38:11 pm PDT #18242 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

No comment on tonight's Who? It was fun, fine old school Who in my opinion (apart from the setup stuff at the end). However the setup stuff made me think back on the season and is giving me a theoretical headache.

The Amy/Rory cameo was hysterical. I thought they were going to get pulled in by the end of the episode, which could have worked, but I'm glad they weren't.


Dana - Sep 24, 2011 5:38:46 pm PDT #18243 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

However the setup stuff made me think back on the season and is giving me a theoretical headache.

Me too. Timelines and shit.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 24, 2011 5:43:13 pm PDT #18244 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Me too. Timelines and shit.

Well, as far as I can recall, there IS still another Doctor running around out there. He shouldn't have a Tardis unless he's always been ASDFLKASDLF:AKSDFA:SLDFKS:FLKSDFLASKFS:LFSF:LSAKF:L

And that's where the headache starts.


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 5:50:17 pm PDT #18245 of 30001

I loved the name Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All. It was a fun ep, and I did feel sad for the Doctor getting ready to die die, not just regenerate. And the shushing thing, ha. I can't think about the timey-wimey stuff. I just can't.

Oh, and his name tag, The Doctor, Here to Help. Indeed.

Craig is extremely likable.


DebetEsse - Sep 24, 2011 5:52:06 pm PDT #18246 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I am totally calling dibs on "Stormageddon" as my firstborn's in utero nickname.

It was very nice, if a bit much with beating the Cybermen through love.

Another "Dad's Love" story, which, now that we have confirmation that it was River in the suit (It seemed too obvious, but it was still my best explanation), I think will be significant. I don't know how, exactly, but I expect that Rory will save the day with the Power of Paternal Love.

I fear that this will end up meaning that Melody never becomes (became?) River* because that ties together a lot of threads for the season. We still haven't resolved Something's Weird With Amy's Timeline/Backstory, though

* By which I mean that she grows up/will grow up as Melody with her parents instead. Time travel plays havok with tenses. I bet Gallifreyan has 20.