And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


zuisa - Sep 10, 2011 6:28:55 pm PDT #18076 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

I feel like they gave a pretty decent explanation for that (or, as much as all the wibbly wobbly stuff ever gets explained) but Matt Smith was talking so damned fast I missed a lot of it.

Rory really is the most fantastic person.

I also really loved Amy's speech about some people being so beautiful when you first meet them, but then five minutes later they're dull as brick. Whereas other people are just OK, but as you get to know them their personality makes them beautiful.


-t - Sep 10, 2011 6:49:31 pm PDT #18077 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Of course Rory also did the never having existed thing, too. He can't remember that, though, I hope.

"You're turning me into you" - Rory's said something similar to the Doctor before, hasn't he?


DebetEsse - Sep 10, 2011 6:51:32 pm PDT #18078 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

The episode did end on the shot of the Doctor after Amy asked, "Where is she?"

The explanation, from what I can tell, is that Future!Amy metaphorically punched a hole in space-time.


-t - Sep 10, 2011 6:56:06 pm PDT #18079 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I will accept that.


tommyrot - Sep 10, 2011 7:31:36 pm PDT #18080 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Am rewatching now. Future!Amy is awesome. She reminds me of Wishverse!Buffy, except she's a genius who made her own sonic screwdriver, hacked the Interface and reprogrammed some of the handbots.


Kate P. - Sep 11, 2011 7:15:22 am PDT #18081 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I also really loved Amy's speech about some people being so beautiful when you first meet them, but then five minutes later they're dull as brick. Whereas other people are just OK, but as you get to know them their personality makes them beautiful.

Me too, zuisa. That really resonated with me.

Yeah, Future!Amy was fantastic. (Though I kind of wish they'd let her hair start going grey. I know it's pretty much impossible to convincingly age someone 36 years through makeup, but the lack of grey hair didn't help.)


Nora Deirdre - Sep 11, 2011 8:38:18 am PDT #18082 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Matt Smith was talking so damned fast I missed a lot of it.

This happens with me pretty much every episode.


Polter-Cow - Sep 11, 2011 12:33:13 pm PDT #18083 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ergh, that episode was so good. Like, even though, intellectually, all I could think was "Uh, of course you keep the Amy who DIDN'T live through hell and spare her that," the ending was very powerful and made me want to cry for reals.


zuisa - Sep 11, 2011 1:12:00 pm PDT #18084 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

I did cry for reals. It was rough.

I also felt so bad for The Doctor - always having to make difficult decisions that people dislike. He knows they are necessary and yet he hates himself for it anyway.

I know that companions don't really have the greatest track record for getting happy endings on this show, but I really don't know if I'll be able to cope with anything bad happening to Amy or Rory at this point. I love them both something fierce.

Once in a while I feel like I need to remind myself that these are, in fact, fictional characters.


Consuela - Sep 11, 2011 1:14:17 pm PDT #18085 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Skimmity-skim because I haven't watched the episode yet-- y'all might get a kick out of these adorable icons for DW, SGA, SG-1, ATLA, and a bunch of other fandoms. Pentapus is SO talented.

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