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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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§ ita § - May 28, 2011 7:04:09 am PDT #17247 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't think the writers needed to create this box in which those were the only 2 options

But do you think they did? I mean, he can't have made the wrong choice if canon says there were only two and everyone dies the other way. It becomes an issue of bad storytelling, not OOC behaviour.


le nubian - May 28, 2011 7:35:40 am PDT #17248 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes, I think it is bad storytelling AND bad behavior (esp. with regard to Ianto's death; not speaking to his daughter first was beyond the pale as well).

I got the impression that it was more important (from a writing standpoint) to have Jack suffer as completely as possible than to have a narrative that is dark, but compelling.


DCJensen - May 28, 2011 6:19:59 pm PDT #17249 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Doctor Who, UK, not airing until next week on BBC America:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ETA:

That ending's gonna screw up so many children, everywhere.


DebetEsse - May 28, 2011 6:26:07 pm PDT #17250 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Oh, it really is.

I cannot believe given what they just. established. about the Gangers, that the Doctor disintegrated GangerAmy.


Dana - May 28, 2011 6:27:15 pm PDT #17251 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Doctor Who (new episode):

Oh, goody, another sci-fi pregnancy with a woman strapped to a table. Always good.


DCJensen - May 28, 2011 6:50:01 pm PDT #17252 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

More Doctor Who Ep 6:

Tom Baker's voice was unexpected, too.


WindSparrow - May 28, 2011 7:13:21 pm PDT #17253 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Can I just say that the Doctor's habit of referring to Rory as "Rory Pond" just tickles me.


Polter-Cow - May 28, 2011 7:37:28 pm PDT #17254 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Debet, neither could I, but the gangers they'd been dealing with were autonomous living creatures. Ganger!Amy was being controlled by Amy in a harness. It may also be for the sake of Amy and the baby, as labor could be difficult when your consciousness isn't fully in your body.

I feel sorry for everyone who has to wait a week for this episode and another for the next.


WindSparrow - May 28, 2011 7:53:59 pm PDT #17255 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

P-C, that is how I read the situation.


§ ita § - May 28, 2011 7:54:15 pm PDT #17256 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read that they're supposed to be showing both next week on BBCA. But I haven't checked the schedule.