Giles, help! He's going to scold me!

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Theresa - May 07, 2011 8:15:41 pm PDT #16955 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I was shocked by Walternate's statement to Peter that he wanted him to experience loss like he had.

As a parent that goes against any instincts I have felt or seen in other parents. Usually it's too much at the other end of the spectrum making sure the children don't know any of the unhappiness that the parents faced. Sometimes, leading to extremely spoiled children who can't handle adversity, but setting the parenting aside, I don't think making your children suffer is a normal reaction. eta to clarify: The kind of suffering that Walternate was talking about when he meant killing people that Peter loved. Not the time-out kind of suffering. We still enjoy that.

If Peter never existed and they don't remember him, I'm interested to see what they think is the reason for starting down the path of crossing the universes and starting the rifts.

I adore the actor who plays Walter. He changes character's so completely that I am sometimes afraid Walter will stand up straight, assume a more powerful stance and say he was Walternate all along.

I was sad that Astrid couldn't be there for him in his lab. I understood the reason. The straight hair isn't my favorite, but it still worked for her. She's gorgeous either way.


aurelia - May 07, 2011 8:48:34 pm PDT #16956 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

We did still see Peter in the redverse episodes early in the season. I don't doubt that he'll still be present in some way.

I am starting to see the brilliance in removing Peter from inter-universe "peace talks". He is the original point of contention. Cooperation and collaboration may be more likely when no one is trying to win him.

As to Josh Jackson's sweater, I kind of love that he chooses that when the girlfriend isn't around to dress him. [link] (around 4:45)


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 08, 2011 1:28:17 pm PDT #16957 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Conversation on twitter just now between Steven Moffat and Neil Gaiman:

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quester - May 08, 2011 2:04:11 pm PDT #16958 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

f Walter sent the machine and the original First People transcript back in time... does that mean Walter is Rambaldi?

Because I missed this the first time through: Bwahahaha!!!


Polter-Cow - May 08, 2011 4:15:28 pm PDT #16959 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, that was OK.

Ha ha, yeah, basically. That...sure was an episode of Doctor Who with pirates. Who became SPACE pirates!

I liked the "healer gone wrong" plot better in "The Doctor Dances." This one didn't make much sense.


Juliebird - May 08, 2011 4:21:12 pm PDT #16960 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I didn't get Rory's hand cuts equating to him drowning once off life support.

Or why she was "saving" them without really saving them. Except suddenly all the crew seemed to fine except Tyhpoid Boy


tommyrot - May 08, 2011 4:22:59 pm PDT #16961 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I didn't get Rory's hand cuts equating to him drowning once off life support.

When he got knocked overboard, the Doctor said he was drowning.


DebetEsse - May 08, 2011 4:23:37 pm PDT #16962 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Rory was drowning when the siren got him out of the water.

For most of the crew, the only health problem they have were their nicks and cuts, which they could heal on their own. The exceptions were Rory (drowning) and Toby (Typhoid). It's weird that none of them chose to go back onto their own ship (although, I suppose, becalmed is bad).


Polter-Cow - May 08, 2011 4:24:18 pm PDT #16963 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I didn't get Rory's hand cuts equating to him drowning once off life support.

He was drowning because he was drowning when the siren transported him to the med center to save him.

What the hell she was doing with the pirates who were PERFECTLY FINE except for a little cut is anyone's guess.


Scrappy - May 08, 2011 4:24:18 pm PDT #16964 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Rory was drowning when she got to him--he had dived into the ocean. She was taking in any human with an imperfection and made no distinction between a cut finger or a case of Typhoid. And she wasn't curing them, just keeping them alive. She was more an EMT than a doctor, really.