They woke up in the Waiting Room, in Sam's body
Not according to what Tom and I quoted. It was full body transportation, and they just looked like Sam.
I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb?
Buffy ,'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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§ ita § - Mar 31, 2011 2:39:59 pm PDT #16416 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
DebetEsse - Mar 31, 2011 2:56:39 pm PDT #16417 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Zenkitty's right. Early on, it was just his mind. He gave birth in one ep, for example. Later, they changed the "mechanics", and you get things like the double-amputee and the fathering-a-child-who-is-clearly-his. This is also reflected in a change in what Al saw when he looked at Sam.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2011 3:02:58 pm PDT #16418 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did they retcon, or did they change how it worked within the show? Everything I can find indicates it's a retcon, which means that's the way it "always" happened.
DebetEsse - Mar 31, 2011 3:07:56 pm PDT #16419 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
My recollection is that it's generally treated (and I don't know if this is in fandom or officially) as "Well, it's a time travel show, so something that he did in the past changed the timeline in such a way that the mechanics are this", which, I suppose, makes it more retconny than not.
Zenkitty - Mar 31, 2011 3:11:14 pm PDT #16420 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Not according to what Tom and I quoted. It was full body transportation, and they just looked like Sam.
Yes, you're right. See, I can't even bring myself to say it.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2011 3:12:56 pm PDT #16421 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What was the turning point? And how in hell is it invisible to so many people? Including me? (IO9 doesn't seem to care that the linchpin of their article is invalid--I'm oddly disappointed)
le nubian - Mar 31, 2011 4:08:04 pm PDT #16422 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I cannot believe the craziness I am reading about Quantum Leap. I never know half this shit.
Zenkitty - Mar 31, 2011 6:44:28 pm PDT #16423 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
What was the turning point?
Cannot remember. There must have been an episode where they first did the he's-actually-physically-there thing, but I don't recall which episode it was, or any exposition or explanation happening.
sj - Apr 01, 2011 12:39:21 am PDT #16424 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Zenkitty, maybe the multi episode story where he finds out that one of the women he slept with gave birth to his daughter and not the daughter of the guy he switched places with?
WindSparrow - Apr 01, 2011 4:28:30 am PDT #16425 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
I didn't watch QL. Reading this discussion, I'm not the least bit sorry. But it has me pondering the difference between a quality retcon and an ass-pull. I know what it means to me, but I'm having a hard time remembering solid examples of ass-pulls that everyone would agree on. I, for one, would consider Wonder Woman's change from using the Invisible Airplane to being able to move about on air currents on her own as a bit of an ass-pull, but that may be because I really, really liked the Invisible Airplane.