What was the turning point? And how in hell is it invisible to so many people? Including me? (IO9 doesn't seem to care that the linchpin of their article is invalid--I'm oddly disappointed)
Mal: Okay. She won't be winning any beauty contests anytime soon. But she is solid. Ship like this, be with ya 'til the day you die. Zoe: 'Cause it's a deathtrap.
'Out Of Gas'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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§ ita § - Mar 31, 2011 3:12:56 pm PDT #16421 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
le nubian - Mar 31, 2011 4:08:04 pm PDT #16422 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I cannot believe the craziness I am reading about Quantum Leap. I never know half this shit.
Zenkitty - Mar 31, 2011 6:44:28 pm PDT #16423 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
What was the turning point?
Cannot remember. There must have been an episode where they first did the he's-actually-physically-there thing, but I don't recall which episode it was, or any exposition or explanation happening.
sj - Apr 01, 2011 12:39:21 am PDT #16424 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Zenkitty, maybe the multi episode story where he finds out that one of the women he slept with gave birth to his daughter and not the daughter of the guy he switched places with?
WindSparrow - Apr 01, 2011 4:28:30 am PDT #16425 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
I didn't watch QL. Reading this discussion, I'm not the least bit sorry. But it has me pondering the difference between a quality retcon and an ass-pull. I know what it means to me, but I'm having a hard time remembering solid examples of ass-pulls that everyone would agree on. I, for one, would consider Wonder Woman's change from using the Invisible Airplane to being able to move about on air currents on her own as a bit of an ass-pull, but that may be because I really, really liked the Invisible Airplane.
Zenkitty - Apr 01, 2011 5:23:31 am PDT #16426 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
sj, it could have been. I don't know if they did it so he could have a child, or if they did it and then realized it meant he could. I'd have to sit down with an episode guide and think about it. Which maybe I'll do later, because now I want to know!
WS, I really liked QL and was happy to do a lot of hand-waving, but I doubt I would enjoy it as much now as I did then! It got a little heavy-handed with the morality plays, and the whole Sam-as-saviour deal. It started out as a fun sci-fi show and ended up taking itself (and Sam) way too seriously.
sj - Apr 01, 2011 6:19:15 am PDT #16427 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Zenkitty, when you do let me know.
QL was worth it just for the relationship between Sam and Dean Stockwell's character. I'll still never forgive it for the finale.
le nubian - Apr 01, 2011 7:45:26 am PDT #16428 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
WS,
everyone I knew when I was a kid watching Lynda Carter envied that invisible airplane. That was DOPE.
Jon B. - Apr 01, 2011 7:55:49 am PDT #16429 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Another New Who trailer: [link]
tommyrot - Apr 01, 2011 8:27:21 am PDT #16430 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I'm convinced there will be no new season of Who. The previews make it look just too awesome to exist.