`Yes, that's my take too: he wants to save his world AND the icing on the cake is punishing the people who stole his child and endangered the world as well.
But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?
Fred ,'Smile Time'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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sumi - Mar 26, 2011 6:44:39 am PDT #16360 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 6:47:15 am PDT #16361 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Because if he's going for revenge (rather than accepting or even relishing it as a side effect) he's a bad guy, and the story just got 2D instead of 3.
The story I like is a dilemma started by our side with selfish but well-intentioned motives, and has two sides of equal "rootability" fighting for their futures.
The minute one of them becomes base so it's easy to side with the other, is the minute the story becomes significantly less interesting.
Difficult choices, regrettable things. That's the story that grabs me.
-t - Mar 26, 2011 7:34:28 am PDT #16362 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I am more interested in seeing these characters find ways to avoid the regrettable things that appear to be necessary choices.
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 7:41:06 am PDT #16363 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's interesting that I'm like "Der, it's the whole point" not realising that other people think it's a good question.
Or boneheaded. One of the two.
-t - Mar 26, 2011 7:52:17 am PDT #16364 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
The story I like is a dilemma started by our side with selfish but well-intentioned motives, and has two sides of equal "rootability" fighting for their futures.
That's the most important thing about this season of Fringe for me, really. It probably says something about me that I wouldn't find a more revenge-driven Walternate all that unsympathetic.
Connie Neil - Mar 26, 2011 2:37:37 pm PDT #16365 of 30001
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Has there been any reconciliation between Peter and Walter? I stopped watching because I couldn't bear watching Walter's heart get broken over and over.
aurelia - Mar 26, 2011 4:26:05 pm PDT #16366 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
OMG Fringe. Way to limit the time Torv spends in a pregnancy pad. Did anyone else find much of that even freakier than Alien?
Love the new intrigue for the Fringe team and that KickAsstrid is at least partially in the know. Loved seeing Henry again. Really loved the Lincoln/Liv interaction when they both thought she wouldn't make it. It'll be interesting to see if that goes anywhere.
The story I like is a dilemma started by our side with selfish but well-intentioned motives, and has two sides of equal "rootability" fighting for their futures.
I think that's exactly what the intention is.
As to what the device does, we really don't know. We've heard Walter's interpretation of the drawing and the First People books, and we've heard what Sam Weiss chose to tell Nina. We don't know what Walternate and his Brendan believe, or what their source of information is. Creation/destruction are the common watchwords, but with what scale and/or level of specificity?
My thoughts lean toward the creation side. Could we end up with a 2nd Peter? Or a 3rd universe? Will a 3rd universe be green or yellow?
Ginger - Mar 27, 2011 9:47:15 am PDT #16367 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
I just realized that the guy who played the Scorpio Killer in Dirty Harry grew up to be Garak on DS9.
tommyrot - Mar 27, 2011 10:16:42 am PDT #16368 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
From Cocktail Party Physics, a thing on non-Newtonian fluid: when fluids get weird
Posted here because:
UPDATE: A Facebook pal pointed me to this awesome appearance by Dr. Who's Matt Smith on British TV explaining about Non-Newtonian fluids (a.k.a. batter). Why don't we see this on The View or Good Morning America?
Karen Gillan's in it too.
Zenkitty - Mar 27, 2011 10:20:59 am PDT #16369 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Why don't we see this on The View or Good Morning America?
OMG can you imagine? They'd never get around to explaining anything for all the time they'd spend on utterly stupid questions and inane giggling.