I'm assuming the blood test was to make sure the baby (did we get a name?) had the right midi-chlorians to power the universe-destroying machine....
Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.
Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'
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Theodosia - Mar 26, 2011 4:53:40 am PDT #16346 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
DCJensen - Mar 26, 2011 5:39:17 am PDT #16347 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
That got me thinking, what if the universe destroying machine is like the Genesis Device? It's really a creation thingy, but used for the wrong purposes, "it would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix."
-t - Mar 26, 2011 5:39:40 am PDT #16348 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I do like that Link and Charlie know about the switch now, and are starting to wonder about what else Walternate isn't telling them.
God, yes. The tangle of loyalties and responsibilities is delicious.
I'm assuming the blood test was to make sure the baby (did we get a name?) had the right midi-chlorians to power the universe-destroying machine....
Surely Walternate could run whatever tests he wanted openly. That's what I don't get - why the cloak and dagger?
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 5:47:52 am PDT #16349 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Isn't the universe-destroying machine primarily a universe-saving machine? I mean, isn't that what Walternate's going to use it for? It's just that only one universe will survive?
Theodosia - Mar 26, 2011 5:53:43 am PDT #16350 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I'm thinking that Walternate and Post-Children-of-Earth Captain Jack Harkness are going to have a lot to discuss.
-t - Mar 26, 2011 6:04:23 am PDT #16351 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I'm not sure whether destroying one universe is the byproduct of saving the other, or the other way around, or if it matters which it is. I'm hoping that what Olivia told the other Broyles is right and both universes can be saved somehow.
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 6:07:41 am PDT #16352 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not sure whether destroying one universe is the byproduct of saving the other, or the other way around, or if it matters which it is.
But Walternate's primary mission is to save his universe. At any cost. Why would he want to destroy the other universe for no other benefit?
-t - Mar 26, 2011 6:16:31 am PDT #16353 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Revenge, maybe. But my uncertainty is really about the machine's primary effect, not Walternate's goals. Does it save one universe at the expense of the other, or does it destroy one universe and the hope is that that destruction will save the other?
It's open question, I think, whether the possibility of saving his universe without destroying the other universe is one Walternate would prefer, or even consider.
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 6:22:05 am PDT #16354 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Huh. I'd never considered Walternate going for revenge. I thought they were being straightforward in indicating that the B side was fighting for their survival, and that although it made them cold and do regrettable things, their motives were completely reasonable.
That's why they're able to be viewed sympathetically.
Walternate's a bastard, but he's a bastard whose kid was stolen, and who's fighting for a world's survival. And who won't (so far) experiment on kids.
It's weird what one person thinks is the message, and other people read differently.
-t - Mar 26, 2011 6:28:07 am PDT #16355 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I don't necessarily think he's motivated by revenge, but he might be. It's unclear. On the whole, the people of his universe are just trying to survive, but he's a little murkier.