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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Consuela - Mar 25, 2011 9:27:06 pm PDT #16344 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

What was the business with the blood sample at the end, just keeping the kid out of the system?

Evidence the kid was Peter's, just in case there was a question?

I pretty much knew that had to be an inside job, because they hadn't done anything to date to set up any internal political opponents for Walternate. And you don't start that sort of plotline with a big gun like kidnapping his son.

To be honest, though, I did wonder if somehow Marilyn was in on it. Just a little bit.

I do like that Link and Charlie know about the switch now, and are starting to wonder about what else Walternate isn't telling them.

That said, and it was a suspenseful episode, I am SO TIRED of Monstrous Pregnancies in sci-fi shows. Can we just stop those now? Please?


Tom Scola - Mar 26, 2011 1:26:07 am PDT #16345 of 30001
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Theodosia - Mar 26, 2011 4:53:40 am PDT #16346 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm assuming the blood test was to make sure the baby (did we get a name?) had the right midi-chlorians to power the universe-destroying machine....


DCJensen - Mar 26, 2011 5:39:17 am PDT #16347 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

That got me thinking, what if the universe destroying machine is like the Genesis Device? It's really a creation thingy, but used for the wrong purposes, "it would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix."


-t - Mar 26, 2011 5:39:40 am PDT #16348 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I do like that Link and Charlie know about the switch now, and are starting to wonder about what else Walternate isn't telling them.

God, yes. The tangle of loyalties and responsibilities is delicious.

I'm assuming the blood test was to make sure the baby (did we get a name?) had the right midi-chlorians to power the universe-destroying machine....

Surely Walternate could run whatever tests he wanted openly. That's what I don't get - why the cloak and dagger?


§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 5:47:52 am PDT #16349 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't the universe-destroying machine primarily a universe-saving machine? I mean, isn't that what Walternate's going to use it for? It's just that only one universe will survive?


Theodosia - Mar 26, 2011 5:53:43 am PDT #16350 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm thinking that Walternate and Post-Children-of-Earth Captain Jack Harkness are going to have a lot to discuss.


-t - Mar 26, 2011 6:04:23 am PDT #16351 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm not sure whether destroying one universe is the byproduct of saving the other, or the other way around, or if it matters which it is. I'm hoping that what Olivia told the other Broyles is right and both universes can be saved somehow.


§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 6:07:41 am PDT #16352 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure whether destroying one universe is the byproduct of saving the other, or the other way around, or if it matters which it is.

But Walternate's primary mission is to save his universe. At any cost. Why would he want to destroy the other universe for no other benefit?


-t - Mar 26, 2011 6:16:31 am PDT #16353 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Revenge, maybe. But my uncertainty is really about the machine's primary effect, not Walternate's goals. Does it save one universe at the expense of the other, or does it destroy one universe and the hope is that that destruction will save the other?

It's open question, I think, whether the possibility of saving his universe without destroying the other universe is one Walternate would prefer, or even consider.