For zuisa:

Jack was so my favorite. I thought he was just adorable. Although, whenever he was upset, particularly when he goes to see Dal's grave, I never had any idea what in the world he was saying. I feel like most of the actors tried to speak in neutral-ish English accents because the show was being broadcast in so many countries, but Jack was definitely Kiwi through and through.

Totally. Sometimes the accent was so thick I'd swear he was trying to chew through it...which makes sense in my head as a descriptor. Though I loved that I discovered the giveaway word for the Kiwi trying to pose as an American (or generic non-accent). They don't say "important" - they all pronounce it "impordent" (like that thing in the Bible that I'm not remembering clearly where you could tell if someone was from such-and-such a place by asking them to say some word that they couldn't pronounce...my brain, she is cluttered and random...) I was so fond of Jack (and the actor) that I even watched his next series "Atlantis High" or something like that...sooo stupid. Made The Tribe look like, well not quite Firefly in comparison, maybe Lost? Anyway, you get my point.

Loved Bray, and Bray and Amber

Tried to like Amber, for Bray and Pride's benefit (so to speak), but she was too post-apocalyptic Mary Sue for me.

I played Patsy, s despite not really thinking she's the most interesting character, I feel like I have crazy insight into her life.

Interesting. I never really gave her much thought, but now you say that, her character really was relatable and her motivations were really believable.

I could never tell Siva and Java apart when they were both Technos and it blew my mind that they weren't actually twins.

Totally! I mean Ebony was so like them that the relationship was obvious, but the two of them were nearly indistinguishable.

I also really loved Mouse and Patch.

Mouse never did much for me. I don't remember Patch, which one was he? But I'm also remembering that I never actually saw the 1st season, I just read the recaps, and WAM dithered so much before they got around to showing the last season, I never really saw any of it either...I think that's part of the holes in my memory.

I just found something so compelling underneath the bad acting and bad writing, with the kids trying so hard to rebuild a world avoiding the mistakes their parents made and found themselves time and time again just doomed.

So.Very.Much.This.

In searching around for the Tribe

For bonny:

Specifying New Zealand might help with narrowing it down. However, really, don't knock yourself out about it - see above re: bad acting and bad writing. I don't even own any DVDs myself (their prices having an outrageousness that makes BBC DVDs seem reasonable, or so I remember). All I have is a few eps on tape here and there and a blooper tape that I won somewhere).

Though I haven't looked for them in a while, maybe it's time to search online again. There are some VERY pretty young (yet legal) men in that cast. ;)

Re: Fringe...and holy cow! Other!Broyles and the missing limbs to get the mass transfer right! Walternate seriously does not screw around! Geeez!

Thanks for the wave off, Epic. Truth to tell, like P-C, I really don't need anything else to focus on, teevee-wise. I'll just sit calmly, with my hands folded, and wait for the new Primeval.

I hear you. As I thought about digging up tapes for some re-watch I remembered the back-up in my DVR and the stack of to-be-watched DVDs that threatens to bury me next earthquake, and thought perhaps just going forward (and not looking for new material) for the next little while might be the wisest course.

10 great Doctor Who gifts for Daleks and Gallifreyans alike

bonny, there are also five seasons of 52 episodes each, so, uh... it's a lot of show. I only got into it because I was flipping channels one night and came across it, and it was so WTF that I had to figure out what in the world was going on.

Epic, I'll probably have a real response to that tomorrow, as I'm a bit distraught right now, as...

I just watched the "Doomsday" episode of Doctor Who and here I am blubbering like a baby. Damn show. I suppose it's a sign of it being a good show in that it usually makes me laugh like a lunatic and here I am blubbering, but, wow. Way to be harsh, show.

and tommy, thanks for that link! I really find myself wanting that cell phone charm. I like cell phone charms, and a TARDIS one is even cooler!!

bonny, there are also five seasons of 52 episodes each, so, uh... it's a lot of show.

Omigosh, I had forgotten it had a soap opera schedule! That's why I had so many tapes...

I only got into it because I was flipping channels one night and came across it, and it was so WTF that I had to figure out what in the world was going on.

And hey, zuisa is me! Who knew?

I suppose it's a sign of it being a good show in that it usually makes me laugh like a lunatic and here I am blubbering, but, wow. Way to be harsh, show.

I really find myself wanting that cell phone charm. I like cell phone charms, and a TARDIS one is even cooler!!

I have the TARDIS, totally cool, though it goes through batteries like whoa. I'm thinking I'm gonna have to get the sonic screwdriver keychain myself.

For Epic!!

I totally saw Atlantis High too. It really did make The Tribe look like art, which is, uh, saying something.

Patsy is totally forgettable, you're right, but I really wanted to join this RPG and she was the only open character at the time. So I made her as interesting as humanly possible. I found Mouse cute and often marveled at how her acting was better than a lot of the kids twice her age, I thought. And Patch was also supremely nerdy, blond, and in love with Dee, who wins my award for worst outfit in all 5 seasons. They were both only in season 4, I think.

You are definitely not wrong about the abundance of pretty men in the cast.

Now that I think about it, the episode I stumbled upon initially must have been season 2 or 3, but it was Lex and Tai-San arguing about their wedding and my two thoughts were 1: These two seem awfully young to be discussing marriage plans, and 2: WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THE MAKEUP.

I also have a ton of episodes on tape in a box in my closet. And you have bloopers! Neat. I think I watched them all on youtube, and I remember them being fun.

In other news, I am still horribly distressed from last night's Doctor Who viewing. I really need to stop allowing fiction to turn me into such a mess.

I just watched the "Doomsday" episode of Doctor Who and here I am blubbering like a baby.

Yeah, that happened to me. Doctor Who seems to know what buttons to push to get me to cry.

IODWN, Verity: Men, Bitched and Daleks

The short film about Verity Lambert and her struggle to get Doctor Who made is now available to watch online.

As we reported last month the film was written by Thomas Cowell and Joey Guy who are film students from the University of Central Lancaster.

London, 1963. Verity Lambert, the woman in charge of the BBC's new children's show, is facing somewhat of a struggle. Not only has she got to make a TV show with the entire scope of time and space (on a small budget), but she also has to face bitchy co-workers and arrogant male peers.

"Verity" shows how she fought for the Daleks right to exist on TV, battled against jealous co-workers and ended up triumphant with a national success on her hands.

Haven't watched it yet.

IODWN², I watched the first Dalek episode (from 1963?) the other day. It was fun! Although early on the Daleks don't seem terribly into the idea of Extermination yet. Later in the episode the Daleks finally mention Extermination, and I was all, "About fucking time." These Daleks were easily defeated (at one point they threw rocks at the Daleks and climbed on top of them and grabbed the domes). Also, I can see io9's point about the episodes with lots of parts to them - this one had seven 22-minute parts. The sixth was called "The Ordeal," which I'm guessing refers to what the audience goes through. It's 20 minutes of spelunking!

Oh, and if you rent the DVD, check out the documentary on the creation of the Daleks.

I do wonder what Dr. Jenner told Rick... his best guess where to head? That the walkers would probably rot within the year? That North Korea was behind the virus?

That his best friend and his wife were having an affair and he tried to rape her?

I don't think best friend would have made it clear of the building in that case.