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How could he possibly know she'd fasten her seatbelt?
I can buy that the seat belt made the difference, but Carter obviously didn't know that it would. I think his "plan" was to get to the site a little bit sooner. Unclear when he decided to ram the invisible science shack, but he hoped that might change things.
I thought ramming the shack was the plan, but since the crash happened anyway, WTF?
I'm both heartened and disheartened to know the star can't explain it either.
I would have rated this pretty highly as a clip show if that part had made any sense--because the idea that they were in the clips and watching them instead of just remembering or reliving them added an immediacy to the whole gimmick. Ah, well.
At least the relationship was consummated.
Hope Jo/Zane either doesn't happen, or happens right this time.
Okay, Colin says it was a mad dash to try anything, and it was like Matt said--the honk caused Allison to put on the seatbelt.
I ♥ Buffistas. I was just coming here to ask all that -- particularly the changy Jack/Grant stuff.
OK, so the version of Jack stuck back in 1947 left a message for the present, and presumably grew old and died. Present day Jack got the message, changed history. So neither he nor Grant ever went back in time. So how did the message get left? Also while in the past when did Grant find time to make the investment? And why was it intact? After he had disappeared for seven years, wasn't he legally declared dead, with it reverting to his heirs? And once he did not travel back in time, how did the investment get made anyway?
I think Carter and Grant both had machinery that was set to fling them forward back in 1947, and that flicker we saw where their clothing changed in Beverly's secret lair was them returning to the present and replacing or overwriting their new timeline selves.
I've decided all of Matt's answers are the right ones, and will take his word over Colin's at this point.
That certainly makes as much sense as any time travel scenario can.
I think Carter and Grant both had machinery that was set to fling them forward back in 1947, and that flicker we saw where their clothing changed in Beverly's secret lair was them returning to the present and replacing or overwriting their new timeline selves.
That's what I assumed too, since they were talking in 1947 about the beacons being about to activate.
The problem with that is that their first plan depended on changing history so Beverly didn't steal the DED in the first place, in which case there wouldn't be a time-travel doohickey to send them back. (Which I assume is why that plan failed on a universe-trying-to-avoid-a-paradox level, but you'd think Grant would have considered it!)
I enjoyed the ep overall, but single-loop time travel stories make me so cranky. At least I knew where this one was going ahead of time so I could steel myself for the inevitable eye-rolling.
I was relieved about one thing: I thought that Jack would get to Allison in 1947 to warn her, but in doing so would accidentally prevent her from kissing the other 1947 Jack. Jack would return to the present and find that Allison was alive but that they had never hooked up. Cue sad trombone. Anyway, I'm glad that didn't happen.