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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


quester - Sep 10, 2010 7:02:24 pm PDT #14200 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose

Oh, yes. And the Jose Chung episodes!


Frankenbuddha - Sep 10, 2010 7:10:23 pm PDT #14201 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I will say that by no means is Home my favorite episode - that's a four-way tie between Clyde Bruckman, Jose Chung, Small Potatoes and Bad Blood. But Home is definitely an episode that stays with you.

Whether you like it or not. God knows Johnny Mathis will never mean the same thing to me ever again.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2010 5:04:58 am PDT #14202 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I asked Colin what the resolution of the episode actually meant, and he didn't know. So there you have it.


Jon B. - Sep 11, 2010 5:23:15 am PDT #14203 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

How could he possibly know she'd fasten her seatbelt?

I can buy that the seat belt made the difference, but Carter obviously didn't know that it would. I think his "plan" was to get to the site a little bit sooner. Unclear when he decided to ram the invisible science shack, but he hoped that might change things.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2010 5:38:39 am PDT #14204 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought ramming the shack was the plan, but since the crash happened anyway, WTF?

I'm both heartened and disheartened to know the star can't explain it either.

I would have rated this pretty highly as a clip show if that part had made any sense--because the idea that they were in the clips and watching them instead of just remembering or reliving them added an immediacy to the whole gimmick. Ah, well.

At least the relationship was consummated.

Hope Jo/Zane either doesn't happen, or happens right this time.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2010 6:45:25 am PDT #14205 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, Colin says it was a mad dash to try anything, and it was like Matt said--the honk caused Allison to put on the seatbelt.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 11, 2010 8:05:37 am PDT #14206 of 30001
What is even happening?

I ♥ Buffistas. I was just coming here to ask all that -- particularly the changy Jack/Grant stuff.


Typo Boy - Sep 11, 2010 8:24:37 am PDT #14207 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK, so the version of Jack stuck back in 1947 left a message for the present, and presumably grew old and died. Present day Jack got the message, changed history. So neither he nor Grant ever went back in time. So how did the message get left? Also while in the past when did Grant find time to make the investment? And why was it intact? After he had disappeared for seven years, wasn't he legally declared dead, with it reverting to his heirs? And once he did not travel back in time, how did the investment get made anyway?


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 11, 2010 8:35:57 am PDT #14208 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think Carter and Grant both had machinery that was set to fling them forward back in 1947, and that flicker we saw where their clothing changed in Beverly's secret lair was them returning to the present and replacing or overwriting their new timeline selves.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2010 8:39:02 am PDT #14209 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've decided all of Matt's answers are the right ones, and will take his word over Colin's at this point.